From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ville Herva Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 14:22:39 +0000 Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal Message-Id: <20060109142239.GR21365@vianova.fi> List-Id: References: <20060104010123.GK3831@stusta.de> <20060104113726.3bd7a649@mango.fruits.de> <1136445395.24475.17.camel@mindpipe> <20060105124317.2d12a85c@mango.fruits.de> <1136483330.31583.5.camel@mindpipe> <20060108210756.GD1686@vianova.fi> <1136756669.2997.2.camel@mindpipe> <20060109081646.GG21365@vianova.fi> <1136814731.9957.4.camel@mindpipe> In-Reply-To: <1136814731.9957.4.camel@mindpipe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Lee Revell Cc: Florian Schmidt , Tomasz =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=B3oczko?= , Adrian Bunk , Jesper Juhl , Takashi Iwai , Olivier Galibert , Alistair John Strachan , Jan Engelhardt , Andi Kleen , perex@suse.cz, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, James@superbug.demon.co.uk, sailer@ife.ee.ethz.ch, linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, zab@zabbo.net, kyle@parisc-linux.org, jgarzik@pobox.com, Thorsten Knabe , zwane@commfireservices.com, zaitcev@yahoo.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 08:52:11AM -0500, you [Lee Revell] wrote: > > Sure, we'd like the bug report. I will try to come up with one. > I just wanted to point out that many people who tell everyone that "ALSA > sucks" like you and JWZ, have really just made the mistake of buying > bleeding edge barely-supported hardware. Yes. I'll happily admit I definetely made just that mistake. Before I bought the new card, I did some quick asking around, and heard that M-Audio was supposedly good. I just wanted better sound quality than the integrated I815 sound (shouldn't be much to ask), and preferably HW mixing. I checked that revo7.1 was supported, but when I went to the reseller, they were out of stock for that one. So I made a quick and unconsidered decision to buy revo5.1 instead. So it was definetely bad research on my part. But I still maintain that the asoundrc required for swmixing is not as trivial as "just works". It wasn't even with i815 audio. > If vendors gave us more docs so that reverse engineering drivers was not > the norm, the situation would improve greatly. I understand. -- v -- v@iki.fi