From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Leonard Milcin Jr." Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 12:47:50 +0000 Subject: Re: [OT] ALSA userspace API complexity Message-Id: <43BD1576.2050107@post.pl> List-Id: References: <20050726150837.GT3160@stusta.de> <20060103193736.GG3831@stusta.de> <20060104030034.6b780485.zaitcev@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Tomasz_K=B3oczko?= Cc: Jaroslav Kysela , Pete Zaitcev , Alistair John Strachan , Adrian Bunk , Olivier Galibert , Tomasz Torcz , Jan Engelhardt , Andi Kleen , alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, James@superbug.demon.co.uk, sailer@ife.ee.ethz.ch, linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, zab@zabbo.net, kyle@parisc-linux.org, parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org, jgarzik@pobox.com, Thorsten Knabe , zwane@commfireservices.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Tomasz K=B3oczko wrote in his signature: > ----------------------------------------------------------- > *Ludzie nie maj=B1 problem=F3w, tylko sobie sami je stwarzaj=B1* > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Allow me translate sentence from my signature to english > "People do not have problems they create them themselves" > and ALSA case matches in 100%. Look, kloczek, how less problems we cold have by banishing all the technology and going back to stone age? The complexity is sometimes unavoidable if one tries to please as many as possible. But why not userspace library that simplifies access to ALSA for those who don't need all the ,,complexity''? That pleases both -- those who need feauters, and those who only need to pass something to speakers. Maybe there are cards that work with OSS and not with ALSA, and that may be the reason to keep it just for some time. But in the long run I don't think there is a need to have two sound systems in kernel just because one is complicated and other lacks some features. Leonard