From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: James Courtier-Dutton Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 09:54:05 +0000 Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal Message-Id: <43BE3E3D.7050506@superbug.demon.co.uk> List-Id: References: <20050726150837.GT3160@stusta.de> <0D76E9E1-7FB0-41FD-8FAC-E4B3C6E9C902@dalecki.de> <1136486021.31583.26.camel@mindpipe> <1136491503.847.0.camel@mindpipe> <7B34B941-46CC-478F-A870-43FE0D3143AB@dalecki.de> <1136493172.847.26.camel@mindpipe> <8D670C39-7B52-407C-8BDD-3478DB172641@dalecki.de> <9a8748490601051535s5e28fd81of6814088db7ccac@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Hannu Savolainen Cc: Marcin Dalecki , Jesper Juhl , Lee Revell , Jan Engelhardt , Takashi Iwai , Adrian Bunk , Tomasz Torcz , Olivier Galibert , Alistair John Strachan , Andi Kleen , perex@suse.cz, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, sailer@ife.ee.ethz.ch, linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, zab@zabbo.net, kyle@parisc-linux.org, parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org, jgarzik@pobox.com, Thorsten Knabe , zwane@commfireservices.com, zaitcev@yahoo.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hannu Savolainen wrote: > > Btw, about the current OSS drivers in the kernel. They are really obsolete > because they are based on some 10 years old API version. For this reason > it's necessary to remove them in the nearish future (maybe at the same > time when we release the OpenOSS version). Comparing ALSA against the > kernel OSS drivers is pointless because current OSS has very little > common with that code. Hannu, This is the LKML. So, we are considering KERNEL code. Not some external binary blob. We are therefore suggesting to remove the kernel OSS drivers as that is all we have to compare with ALSA. We can't compare a binary blob with open source as the binary blob will never be part of mainline. Even you admit that the OSS drivers in the kernel mainline are "really obsolete", so you must agree with this thread that we should remove them. Only if your binary blobs are released as GPL so that they can be included in mainline can it really be any use to discuss them. James