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From: "Péter Ujfalusi" <peter.ujfalusi@linux.intel.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Kuninori Morimoto <kuninori.morimoto.gx@renesas.com>,
	Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	Peter Ujfalusi <peter.ujfalusi@gmail.com>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>,
	linux-sound@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/3] ASoC: remove card->pop_time
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2026 10:06:38 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <481bf4d8-6d5e-47e1-80ca-4f982a5ee712@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adf50GLs7me92fvV@sirena.co.uk>



On 09/04/2026 22:11, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 09, 2026 at 11:14:08AM +0300, Péter Ujfalusi wrote:
>> On 09/04/2026 07:36, Kuninori Morimoto wrote:
> 
>>> I'm now trying to cleanup snd_soc_card, and noticed that card->pop_time is used
>>> only from OMAP1 board-ams-delta.
> 
>> The pop_time is an amazingly good tool to debug pop noise and is mostly
>> used via the debugfs.
>> You set the pop_time to non 0 and DAPM will 'slow down' and you can
>> identify the step which produces the pop.
> 
>> Please, don't remove it!
> 
> For Morimoto-san's purposes I think it's sufficient to just make it not
> card specific so we could just have a global control in debugfs that
> applies to all cards instead.  That's likely sufficient for debugging
> use?

and I think at least the amx-delta is using the pop_time incorrectly, it
is using it as a handshake flag between the codec driver and the machine
driver and if I look back it started to to it with

fac3f5e20dce ("ASoC: don't use codec hw_write on cx20442/omap-ams-delta")
which changed it from codec->hw_write to the pop_time

f0fba2ad1b6b ("ASoC: multi-component - ASoC Multi-Component Support")
changed the original codec->control_data to codec->hw_write.

Yes, the global pop_time (card level?) is fine for debugging and the
cx20442/amx-delta needs proper handshake implementation.

-- 
Péter


      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-04-10  7:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-09  4:36 [RFC][PATCH 0/3] ASoC: remove card->pop_time Kuninori Morimoto
2026-04-09  4:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] ASoC: ti: amx-delta: don't use card->pop_time Kuninori Morimoto
2026-04-09  4:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] ASoC: cx20442: " Kuninori Morimoto
2026-04-09  4:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] ASoC: soc-card: remvoe card->pop_time Kuninori Morimoto
2026-04-09  5:22 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] ASoC: remove card->pop_time Takashi Iwai
2026-04-09 20:47   ` Mark Brown
2026-04-09  8:14 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2026-04-09 19:11   ` Mark Brown
2026-04-10  3:14     ` Kuninori Morimoto
2026-04-10  7:06     ` Péter Ujfalusi [this message]

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