From: "Pawel / Xj" <xj@wp.pl>
To: linux-sound <linux-sound@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: [BUG] Presonus Studio 1824c firmware 3.11 no longer exposes mixer interface ("Quirk or no altset; falling back to MIDI 1.0")
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 01:18:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <515e134e2b0a4364b6d595c77ef84216@grupawp.pl> (raw)
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Hi ALSA developers, after upgrading the firmware on my PreSonus Studio 1824c audio interface to version 3.11, the Linux USB-audio driver no longer attaches the mixer/routing interface. On kernels 6.17.0 and 6.17.2 (linux-zen), the device is detected, but dmesg shows: usb 3-2: Presonus Studio 1810c, device_setup: 1 usb 3-2: (8out/18in @ 48kHz) usb 3-2: Quirk or no altset; falling back to MIDI 1.0 The device works as a generic USB Audio interface, but: - There are no hardware mixer/volume controls in `alsamixer` - The driver cannot switch to 48 kHz mode (it defaults to 88.2/96 kHz) - The proprietary control interface seems missing After investigating with `lsusb -v -d 194f:010d`, I found that firmware 3.11 changes the USB descriptor layout. The older firmware (probably 3.05) had a vendor-specific (Application Specific) interface used for the Presonus mixer quirk. The new firmware has **no vendor-specific interface** other than the DFU (firmware update) one. Excerpt from the descriptor: bInterfaceNumber 3 bInterfaceClass 1 Audio bInterfaceSubClass 1 Control Device iInterface 0 ... bInterfaceNumber 5 bInterfaceClass 254 Application Specific Interface bInterfaceSubClass 1 Device Firmware Update iInterface 12 PreSonus DFU It seems the firmware replaced the previous vendor mixer interface with an additional Audio Control interface (class 1, subclass 1). As a result, `mixer_s1810c.c` does not detect it and falls back to plain USB Audio + MIDI 1.0. **Device info:** - Vendor ID: 0x194f - Product ID: 0x010d (Studio 1824c) - Firmware version: 3.11 - Kernel version tested: 6.17.2 (zen) - Distribution: Artix - ALSA version: from kernel 6.17 tree **Expected behavior:** The driver should attach the PreSonus quirk code (`mixer_s1810c.c`) and expose the hardware mixer and sample rate controls. **Actual behavior:** Driver does not find the vendor interface, prints “Quirk or no altset; falling back to MIDI 1.0,” and no mixer controls appear. **Steps to reproduce:** 1. Connect Studio 1824c with firmware 3.11 2. Check `dmesg` for the log above 3. Observe missing controls in `alsamixer` **Attachments:** - Full output of `lsusb -v -d 194f:010d` (firmware 3.11) - `dmesg` excerpt from device plug-in **Suggestion:** The driver might need to accept a second Audio Control interface as the mixer interface for new firmware revisions, since the vendor-specific interface seems to have been replaced. I’m happy to provide full descriptors and test any experimental patch. Thank you for maintaining ALSA and the USB audio stack! Best regards, Pawel Piatek xj@wp.pl
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[ +2,427945] usb 3-2: new high-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd
[ +0,125645] usb 3-2: New USB device found, idVendor=194f, idProduct=010d, bcdDevice= 3.11
[ +0,000006] usb 3-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=3, SerialNumber=2
[ +0,000001] usb 3-2: Product: Studio 1824c
[ +0,000001] usb 3-2: Manufacturer: PreSonus
[ +0,000000] usb 3-2: SerialNumber: SC4E25040072
[ +0,380876] usb 3-2: Presonus Studio 1810c, device_setup: 0
[ +0,000006] usb 3-2: (8out/14in @ 96kHz)
[ +0,440551] usb 3-2: Quirk or no altset; falling back to MIDI 1.0
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Bus 003 Device 002: ID 194f:010d PreSonus Audio Electronics, Inc. Studio 1824c
Negotiated speed: High Speed (480Mbps)
Device Descriptor:
bLength 18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB 2.00
bDeviceClass 239 Miscellaneous Device
bDeviceSubClass 2 [unknown]
bDeviceProtocol 1 Interface Association
bMaxPacketSize0 64
idVendor 0x194f PreSonus Audio Electronics, Inc.
idProduct 0x010d Studio 1824c
bcdDevice 3.11
iManufacturer 1 PreSonus
iProduct 3 Studio 1824c
iSerial 2 SC4E25040072
bNumConfigurations 1
Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength 0x0281
bNumInterfaces 6
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration 0
bmAttributes 0xc0
Self Powered
MaxPower 0mA
Interface Association:
bLength 8
bDescriptorType 11
bFirstInterface 0
bInterfaceCount 3
bFunctionClass 1 Audio
bFunctionSubClass 0 [unknown]
bFunctionProtocol 32
iFunction 0
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 1
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 1 Control Device
bInterfaceProtocol 32
iInterface 3 Studio 1824c
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (HEADER)
bcdADC 2.00
bCategory 8
wTotalLength 0x00b7
bmControls 0x00
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 8
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 10 (CLOCK_SOURCE)
bClockID 41
bmAttributes 3 Internal programmable clock
bmControls 0x03
Clock Frequency Control (read/write)
bAssocTerminal 0
iClockSource 9 Internal
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 8
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 10 (CLOCK_SOURCE)
bClockID 42
bmAttributes 3 Internal programmable clock
bmControls 0x03
Clock Frequency Control (read/write)
bAssocTerminal 0
iClockSource 10 S/PDIF
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 8
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 10 (CLOCK_SOURCE)
bClockID 43
bmAttributes 3 Internal programmable clock
bmControls 0x03
Clock Frequency Control (read/write)
bAssocTerminal 0
iClockSource 11 ADAT
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 10
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 11 (CLOCK_SELECTOR)
bClockID 40
bNrInPins 3
baCSourceID(0) 41
baCSourceID(1) 42
baCSourceID(2) 43
bmControls 0x03
Clock Selector Control (read/write)
iClockSelector 8 PreSonus Clock Selector
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 17
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 2 (INPUT_TERMINAL)
bTerminalID 2
wTerminalType 0x0101 USB Streaming
bAssocTerminal 0
bCSourceID 40
bNrChannels 18
bmChannelConfig 0x00000000
iChannelNames 15 Line Out 1 (L)
bmControls 0x0000
iTerminal 6 Studio 1824c
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 12
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 3 (OUTPUT_TERMINAL)
bTerminalID 20
wTerminalType 0x0301 Speaker
bAssocTerminal 0
bSourceID 2
bCSourceID 40
bmControls 0x0000
iTerminal 0
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 17
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 2 (INPUT_TERMINAL)
bTerminalID 1
wTerminalType 0x0201 Microphone
bAssocTerminal 0
bCSourceID 40
bNrChannels 18
bmChannelConfig 0x00000000
iChannelNames 33 Mic/Inst/Line 1
bmControls 0x0000
iTerminal 0
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 82
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 6 (FEATURE_UNIT)
bUnitID 11
bSourceID 1
bmaControls(0) 0x00000000
bmaControls(1) 0x00000000
bmaControls(2) 0x00000000
bmaControls(3) 0x00000000
bmaControls(4) 0x00000000
bmaControls(5) 0x00000000
bmaControls(6) 0x00000000
bmaControls(7) 0x00000000
bmaControls(8) 0x00000000
bmaControls(9) 0x00000000
bmaControls(10) 0x00000000
bmaControls(11) 0x00000000
bmaControls(12) 0x00000000
bmaControls(13) 0x00000000
bmaControls(14) 0x00000000
bmaControls(15) 0x00000000
bmaControls(16) 0x00000000
bmaControls(17) 0x00000000
bmaControls(18) 0x00000000
iFeature 0
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 12
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 3 (OUTPUT_TERMINAL)
bTerminalID 22
wTerminalType 0x0101 USB Streaming
bAssocTerminal 0
bSourceID 11
bCSourceID 40
bmControls 0x0000
iTerminal 7 Studio 1824c
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN
bmAttributes 3
Transfer Type Interrupt
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0006 1x 6 bytes
bInterval 8
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 1
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 0
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol 32
iInterface 4 Studio 1824c
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 1
bAlternateSetting 1
bNumEndpoints 2
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol 32
iInterface 4 Studio 1824c
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 16
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (AS_GENERAL)
bTerminalLink 2
bmControls 0x05
Active Alternate Setting Control (read-only)
Valid Alternate Setting Control (read-only)
bFormatType 1
bmFormats 0x00000001
PCM
bNrChannels 18
bmChannelConfig 0x00000000
iChannelNames 15 Line Out 1 (L)
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 6
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 2 (FORMAT_TYPE)
bFormatType 1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I)
bSubslotSize 4
bBitResolution 24
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x01 EP 1 OUT
bmAttributes 5
Transfer Type Isochronous
Synch Type Asynchronous
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x01f8 1x 504 bytes
bInterval 1
AudioStreaming Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 8
bDescriptorType 37
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (EP_GENERAL)
bmAttributes 0x00
bmControls 0x00
bLockDelayUnits 2 Decoded PCM samples
wLockDelay 0x0008
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
bmAttributes 17
Transfer Type Isochronous
Synch Type None
Usage Type Feedback
wMaxPacketSize 0x0004 1x 4 bytes
bInterval 4
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 1
bAlternateSetting 2
bNumEndpoints 2
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol 32
iInterface 4 Studio 1824c
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 16
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (AS_GENERAL)
bTerminalLink 2
bmControls 0x05
Active Alternate Setting Control (read-only)
Valid Alternate Setting Control (read-only)
bFormatType 1
bmFormats 0x00000001
PCM
bNrChannels 14
bmChannelConfig 0x00000000
iChannelNames 15 Line Out 1 (L)
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 6
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 2 (FORMAT_TYPE)
bFormatType 1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I)
bSubslotSize 4
bBitResolution 24
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x01 EP 1 OUT
bmAttributes 5
Transfer Type Isochronous
Synch Type Asynchronous
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x02d8 1x 728 bytes
bInterval 1
AudioStreaming Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 8
bDescriptorType 37
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (EP_GENERAL)
bmAttributes 0x00
bmControls 0x00
bLockDelayUnits 2 Decoded PCM samples
wLockDelay 0x0008
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
bmAttributes 17
Transfer Type Isochronous
Synch Type None
Usage Type Feedback
wMaxPacketSize 0x0004 1x 4 bytes
bInterval 4
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 1
bAlternateSetting 3
bNumEndpoints 2
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol 32
iInterface 4 Studio 1824c
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 16
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (AS_GENERAL)
bTerminalLink 2
bmControls 0x05
Active Alternate Setting Control (read-only)
Valid Alternate Setting Control (read-only)
bFormatType 1
bmFormats 0x00000001
PCM
bNrChannels 8
bmChannelConfig 0x00000000
iChannelNames 15 Line Out 1 (L)
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 6
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 2 (FORMAT_TYPE)
bFormatType 1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I)
bSubslotSize 4
bBitResolution 24
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x01 EP 1 OUT
bmAttributes 5
Transfer Type Isochronous
Synch Type Asynchronous
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0320 1x 800 bytes
bInterval 1
AudioStreaming Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 8
bDescriptorType 37
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (EP_GENERAL)
bmAttributes 0x00
bmControls 0x00
bLockDelayUnits 2 Decoded PCM samples
wLockDelay 0x0008
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
bmAttributes 17
Transfer Type Isochronous
Synch Type None
Usage Type Feedback
wMaxPacketSize 0x0004 1x 4 bytes
bInterval 4
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 2
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 0
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol 32
iInterface 5 Studio 1824c
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 2
bAlternateSetting 1
bNumEndpoints 1
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol 32
iInterface 5 Studio 1824c
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 16
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (AS_GENERAL)
bTerminalLink 22
bmControls 0x05
Active Alternate Setting Control (read-only)
Valid Alternate Setting Control (read-only)
bFormatType 1
bmFormats 0x00000001
PCM
bNrChannels 18
bmChannelConfig 0x00000000
iChannelNames 33 Mic/Inst/Line 1
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 6
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 2 (FORMAT_TYPE)
bFormatType 1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I)
bSubslotSize 4
bBitResolution 24
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x82 EP 2 IN
bmAttributes 5
Transfer Type Isochronous
Synch Type Asynchronous
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x01f8 1x 504 bytes
bInterval 1
AudioStreaming Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 8
bDescriptorType 37
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (EP_GENERAL)
bmAttributes 0x00
bmControls 0x00
bLockDelayUnits 2 Decoded PCM samples
wLockDelay 0x0008
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 2
bAlternateSetting 2
bNumEndpoints 1
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol 32
iInterface 5 Studio 1824c
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 16
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (AS_GENERAL)
bTerminalLink 22
bmControls 0x05
Active Alternate Setting Control (read-only)
Valid Alternate Setting Control (read-only)
bFormatType 1
bmFormats 0x00000001
PCM
bNrChannels 14
bmChannelConfig 0x00000000
iChannelNames 33 Mic/Inst/Line 1
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 6
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 2 (FORMAT_TYPE)
bFormatType 1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I)
bSubslotSize 4
bBitResolution 24
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x82 EP 2 IN
bmAttributes 5
Transfer Type Isochronous
Synch Type Asynchronous
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x02d8 1x 728 bytes
bInterval 1
AudioStreaming Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 8
bDescriptorType 37
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (EP_GENERAL)
bmAttributes 0x00
bmControls 0x00
bLockDelayUnits 2 Decoded PCM samples
wLockDelay 0x0008
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 2
bAlternateSetting 3
bNumEndpoints 1
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol 32
iInterface 5 Studio 1824c
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 16
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (AS_GENERAL)
bTerminalLink 22
bmControls 0x05
Active Alternate Setting Control (read-only)
Valid Alternate Setting Control (read-only)
bFormatType 1
bmFormats 0x00000001
PCM
bNrChannels 8
bmChannelConfig 0x00000000
iChannelNames 33 Mic/Inst/Line 1
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 6
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 2 (FORMAT_TYPE)
bFormatType 1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I)
bSubslotSize 4
bBitResolution 24
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x82 EP 2 IN
bmAttributes 5
Transfer Type Isochronous
Synch Type Asynchronous
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0320 1x 800 bytes
bInterval 1
AudioStreaming Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 8
bDescriptorType 37
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (EP_GENERAL)
bmAttributes 0x00
bmControls 0x00
bLockDelayUnits 2 Decoded PCM samples
wLockDelay 0x0008
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 3
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 0
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 1 Control Device
bInterfaceProtocol 0
iInterface 0
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (HEADER)
bcdADC 1.00
wTotalLength 0x0009
bInCollection 1
baInterfaceNr(0) 1
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 4
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 2
bInterfaceClass 1 Audio
bInterfaceSubClass 3 MIDI Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol 0
iInterface 0
MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (HEADER)
bcdADC 1.00
wTotalLength 0x0041
MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 6
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 2 (MIDI_IN_JACK)
bJackType 1 Embedded
bJackID 1
iJack 0
MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 6
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 2 (MIDI_IN_JACK)
bJackType 2 External
bJackID 2
iJack 14 PreSonus MIDI In
MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 3 (MIDI_OUT_JACK)
bJackType 1 Embedded
bJackID 3
bNrInputPins 1
baSourceID( 0) 2
BaSourcePin( 0) 1
iJack 0
MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 36
bDescriptorSubtype 3 (MIDI_OUT_JACK)
bJackType 2 External
bJackID 4
bNrInputPins 1
baSourceID( 0) 1
BaSourcePin( 0) 1
iJack 13 PreSonus MIDI Out
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0
bRefresh 0
bSynchAddress 0
MIDIStreaming Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 5
bDescriptorType 37
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (Invalid)
bNumEmbMIDIJack 1
baAssocJackID( 0) 1
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x84 EP 4 IN
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0
bRefresh 0
bSynchAddress 0
MIDIStreaming Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 5
bDescriptorType 37
bDescriptorSubtype 1 (Invalid)
bNumEmbMIDIJack 1
baAssocJackID( 0) 3
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 5
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 0
bInterfaceClass 254 Application Specific Interface
bInterfaceSubClass 1 Device Firmware Update
bInterfaceProtocol 1
iInterface 12 PreSonus DFU
Device Firmware Upgrade Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 33
bmAttributes 7
Will Not Detach
Manifestation Tolerant
Upload Supported
Download Supported
wDetachTimeout 250 milliseconds
wTransferSize 64 bytes
bcdDFUVersion 1.10
Device Qualifier (for other device speed):
bLength 10
bDescriptorType 6
bcdUSB 2.00
bDeviceClass 239 Miscellaneous Device
bDeviceSubClass 2 [unknown]
bDeviceProtocol 1 Interface Association
bMaxPacketSize0 64
bNumConfigurations 1
Device Status: 0x0001
Self Powered
next reply other threads:[~2025-10-15 23:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-15 23:18 Pawel / Xj [this message]
2025-10-16 10:53 ` [BUG] Presonus Studio 1824c firmware 3.11 no longer exposes mixer interface ("Quirk or no altset; falling back to MIDI 1.0") Takashi Iwai
[not found] ` <bafec1e8819e47f1bea6e0bfa3f877cf@grupawp.pl>
2025-10-16 15:26 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-10-16 17:53 ` Xj
2025-10-16 20:21 ` Roy Vegard Ovesen
2025-10-17 2:36 ` Xj
2025-10-17 7:40 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-10-18 17:36 ` Roy Vegard Ovesen
2025-10-16 19:11 ` Roy Vegard Ovesen
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