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From: Tobias Bachmann <tobac@mailbox.org>
To: Charles Keepax <ckeepax@opensource.cirrus.com>
Cc: linux-sound@vger.kernel.org,
	Richard Fitzgerald <rf@opensource.cirrus.com>,
	David Rhodes <david.rhodes@cirrus.com>,
	patches@opensource.cirrus.com, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ASoC: cs42l43: SDCA reattach timeout on Dell XPS 14 Panther Lake; chip stuck across distros and kernels; worked initially; still working at hardware level
Date: Thu, 07 May 2026 20:53:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5QsknC2RSUiRut94Zp-HMw@mailbox.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <afyxWuMCcawIE2+v@opensource.cirrus.com>

On Thur, May 07, 2026, 05:35:37PM CEST, Charles Keepax wrote:
> Yeah I am afraid this looks like a hardware problem, enumerating on
> the SoundWire bus is pretty much only dependant on power rails.
>
> As you say there is a tiny hope the device has got into a weird state
> but isn't reset on a reboot. However, given it looks from the log like
> the amps were reset:
> 
> [   14.603448] cs35l56 sdw:0:2:01fa:3557:01:2: Cirrus Logic CS35L57
> Rev B2 OTP1 fw:4.2.1 (patched=0)
> 
> That patched=0 means the firmware has been wiped and that only happens
> on a reset and as far as I know the resets are tied together on this
> model. The very very long shot would be to let the battery run down
> and leave the device for a bit to try and super make sure the power
> rails went down which would also fully reset the device. But it is
> definitely a long shot.

I figured as much. I can take this up with Dell as a hardware issue, but
before I do, I wanted to ask about something architecturally:

Windows (or the Cirrus driver?) apparently treats the speakers and the
headphone jack as independent functional paths and can drive the
speakers fine despite the jack being non-responsive. The Linux driver
currently appears to bring up the sound hardware  as a whole, which 
means the headphone subfunction failing to reattach kills the entire 
card initialization, including the still-healthy amps.

Would it be reasonable to consider a degraded-mode behavior where the
driver proceeds with partial initialization when one subfunction fails,
as long as others remain reachable? My particular case is likely
hardware degradation, but I imagine similar failures could occur from
manufacturing defects, physical damage to the jack contact, or other
single-subfunction faults that don't render the whole chip unusable. The
current behavior makes such a laptop entirely silent in Linux while
still usable in Windows, which seems like a worse outcome than
necessary.

I realize this might be a significant change and there may be good
reasons it's not feasible with the current architecture. Happy to test
any patches.

Thanks again,
Tobias




  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-07 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-06 19:38 ASoC: cs42l43: SDCA reattach timeout on Dell XPS 14 Panther Lake; chip stuck across distros and kernels; worked initially; still working at hardware level Tobias Bachmann
2026-05-07  9:20 ` Charles Keepax
2026-05-07 12:32   ` Tobias Bachmann
2026-05-07 15:35     ` Charles Keepax
2026-05-07 18:53       ` Tobias Bachmann [this message]
2026-05-08  8:41         ` Charles Keepax
2026-05-08 14:56           ` Tobias Bachmann
2026-05-08 15:16             ` Charles Keepax
2026-05-08 15:21               ` Charles Keepax
2026-05-08 15:45                 ` Tobias Bachmann
2026-05-08 15:56                   ` Charles Keepax

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