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From: Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@intel.com>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: <broonie@kernel.org>, <tiwai@suse.com>, <perex@perex.cz>,
	<amadeuszx.slawinski@linux.intel.com>,
	<linux-sound@vger.kernel.org>, <quic_wcheng@quicinc.com>,
	<mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/15] ALSA/ASoC: USB Audio Offload
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 15:06:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <76ac86ea-d29c-41cd-b00d-72059acbcb93@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2025040930-catalyst-calcium-a707@gregkh>

On 2025-04-09 2:10 PM, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 09, 2025 at 01:07:15PM +0200, Cezary Rojewski wrote:
>> Note: this series is based on Mark's broonie/for-next. The xHCI
>> dependency is missing so it won't compile.  Goal of this RFC is
>> discussing the direction of sound/usb changes.
>>
>> Note #2: Why exclude xHCI?  Current form of xhci-sideband.c [1] does not
>> fare well with Intel's hardware design for USB Audio Offload feature.
>> The production shape for usb/xHCI subjects is being discussed with
>> Mathias.  Once we're ready, I'll share the rest.
> 
> How is that going to work with the patches that add xhci offload that
> have already been reviewed on the list?
> 
>> Note #3: this series does _NOT_ aim to block QCOM's equivalent series
>> [2].  The team does acknowledge that we came the "table" late.  At the
>> same time, we're prepared to help QCOM switch to the presented sound/usb
>> approach if that would benefit the framework and its users as a whole.
>> Make it part of this very series if need be.
> 
> I don't understand, I'm just about to take the QCOM patches now.  They
> have been on the list and reviewed for years now, why hasn't this work
> happened before now?  Please work to make your changes on top of that
> patch series.
> 
> So what do you expect me to do here?
> 
> confused,

Hi Greg,

I wanted the effort to be transparent, that's it.  Given the size of the 
task, I've decided to get the feedback earlier.  I believe asking 
sound-maintainers now for their take on sound/usb is better than coming 
here much later and shooting everything at once.  If the proposed 
approach to sound/usb is not welcomed by the sound maintainers, 
obviously xhci-sideband additions that will arrive here later will be 
impacted two.  In regard to the sound changes alone, there is no 
intention to blow up the parallel solution.

TLDR:
Work present here will be placed on top of the QCOM patches, no question 
about it.  xhci-sideband.c will receive a number of changes to cope with 
Intel's design but nothing the list haven't seen before.


Kind regards,
Czarek

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-09 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-09 11:07 [RFC 00/15] ALSA/ASoC: USB Audio Offload Cezary Rojewski
2025-04-09 11:07 ` [RFC 01/15] ALSA: usb: Move media-filters to the media code Cezary Rojewski
2025-04-09 11:07 ` [RFC 02/15] ALSA: usb: Drop private_free() usage for card and pcms Cezary Rojewski
2025-04-09 11:07 ` [RFC 03/15] ALSA: usb: Relocate the usbaudio header file Cezary Rojewski
2025-04-09 11:07 ` [RFC 04/15] ALSA: usb: Implement two-stage quirk applying mechanism Cezary Rojewski
2025-04-09 11:07 ` [RFC 05/15] ALSA: usb: Implement two-stage stream creation mechanism Cezary Rojewski
2025-04-09 11:07 ` [RFC 06/15] ALSA: usb: Implement two-stage chip probing mechanism Cezary Rojewski
2025-04-09 11:07 ` [RFC 07/15] ALSA: usb: Switch to the two-stage chip probing Cezary Rojewski
2025-04-09 11:07 ` [RFC 08/15] ALSA: usb: Switch to the two-stage stream creation Cezary Rojewski
2025-04-09 11:07 ` [RFC 09/15] ALSA: usb: Switch to the two-stage quirk applying Cezary Rojewski
2025-04-09 11:07 ` [RFC 10/15] ALSA: usb: Export PCM operations Cezary Rojewski
2025-04-09 11:07 ` [RFC 11/15] ALSA: usb: Export usb_interface driver operations Cezary Rojewski
2025-04-09 11:07 ` [RFC 12/15] ALSA: usb: Export card-naming procedure Cezary Rojewski
2025-04-09 11:07 ` [RFC 13/15] ALSA: usb: Add getters to obtain endpoint information Cezary Rojewski
2025-04-09 11:07 ` [RFC 14/15] ASoC: codecs: Add USB-Audio driver Cezary Rojewski
2025-04-09 11:07 ` [RFC 15/15] ASoC: Intel: avs: Add USB machine board Cezary Rojewski
2025-04-09 12:10 ` [RFC 00/15] ALSA/ASoC: USB Audio Offload Greg KH
2025-04-09 13:06   ` Cezary Rojewski [this message]
2025-04-10 10:10     ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-10 10:24 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-11  9:39   ` Cezary Rojewski
2025-04-15 16:15     ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-17 10:15       ` Cezary Rojewski
2025-04-22 11:28         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2025-04-22 14:15           ` Cezary Rojewski
2025-04-25 16:53             ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2025-04-11 14:04 ` Greg KH
2025-04-11 16:51   ` Cezary Rojewski

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