From: Wesley Cheng <quic_wcheng@quicinc.com>
To: Stephan Gerhold <stephan.gerhold@linaro.org>
Cc: <srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org>, <mathias.nyman@intel.com>,
<perex@perex.cz>, <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
<dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>, <corbet@lwn.net>,
<broonie@kernel.org>, <lgirdwood@gmail.com>, <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
<pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>,
<Thinh.Nguyen@synopsys.com>, <tiwai@suse.com>, <robh@kernel.org>,
<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-sound@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-input@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
Luca Weiss <luca.weiss@fairphone.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v36 22/31] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Introduce USB AFE port to q6dsp
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 17:23:34 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7d5fd3bf-c33e-4274-938b-2fb93c4b39d8@quicinc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z-1MtJjfVbUQFron@linaro.org>
Hi Stephan,
On 4/2/2025 7:41 AM, Stephan Gerhold wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 04:47:41PM -0700, Wesley Cheng wrote:
>> On 4/1/2025 1:16 AM, Stephan Gerhold wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 12:52:19PM -0700, Wesley Cheng wrote:
>>>> On 3/26/2025 2:57 AM, Stephan Gerhold wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 04:18:03PM -0700, Wesley Cheng wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/25/2025 2:24 AM, Stephan Gerhold wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 05:51:32PM -0700, Wesley Cheng wrote:
>>>>>>>> The QC ADSP is able to support USB playback endpoints, so that the main
>>>>>>>> application processor can be placed into lower CPU power modes. This adds
>>>>>>>> the required AFE port configurations and port start command to start an
>>>>>>>> audio session.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Specifically, the QC ADSP can support all potential endpoints that are
>>>>>>>> exposed by the audio data interface. This includes isochronous data
>>>>>>>> endpoints, in either synchronous mode or asynchronous mode. In the latter
>>>>>>>> case both implicit or explicit feedback endpoints are supported. The size
>>>>>>>> of audio samples sent per USB frame (microframe) will be adjusted based on
>>>>>>>> information received on the feedback endpoint.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some pre-requisites are needed before issuing the AFE port start command,
>>>>>>>> such as setting the USB AFE dev_token. This carries information about the
>>>>>>>> available USB SND cards and PCM devices that have been discovered on the
>>>>>>>> USB bus. The dev_token field is used by the audio DSP to notify the USB
>>>>>>>> offload driver of which card and PCM index to enable playback on.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Wesley Cheng <quic_wcheng@quicinc.com>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> sound/soc/qcom/qdsp6/q6afe-dai.c | 60 +++++++
>>>>>>>> sound/soc/qcom/qdsp6/q6afe.c | 192 ++++++++++++++++++++++-
>>>>>>>> sound/soc/qcom/qdsp6/q6afe.h | 36 ++++-
>>>>>>>> sound/soc/qcom/qdsp6/q6dsp-lpass-ports.c | 23 +++
>>>>>>>> sound/soc/qcom/qdsp6/q6dsp-lpass-ports.h | 1 +
>>>>>>>> sound/soc/qcom/qdsp6/q6routing.c | 32 +++-
>>>>>>>> 6 files changed, 341 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>> diff --git a/sound/soc/qcom/qdsp6/q6routing.c b/sound/soc/qcom/qdsp6/q6routing.c
>>>>>>>> index 90228699ba7d..b7439420b425 100644
>>>>>>>> --- a/sound/soc/qcom/qdsp6/q6routing.c
>>>>>>>> +++ b/sound/soc/qcom/qdsp6/q6routing.c
>>>>>>>> @@ -435,6 +435,26 @@ static struct session_data *get_session_from_id(struct msm_routing_data *data,
>>>>>>>> return NULL;
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +static bool is_usb_routing_enabled(struct msm_routing_data *data)
>>>>>>>> +{
>>>>>>>> + int i;
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> + /*
>>>>>>>> + * Loop through current sessions to see if there are active routes
>>>>>>>> + * to the USB_RX backend DAI. The USB offload routing is designed
>>>>>>>> + * similarly to the non offload path. If there are multiple PCM
>>>>>>>> + * devices associated with the ASoC platform card, only one active
>>>>>>>> + * path can be routed to the USB offloaded endpoint.
>>>>>>>> + */
>>>>>>>> + for (i = 0; i < MAX_SESSIONS; i++) {
>>>>>>>> + if (data->sessions[i].port_id == USB_RX)
>>>>>>>> + return true;
>>>>>>>> + }
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> + return false;
>>>>>>>> +}
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is different about USB_RX compared to other output ports we have in
>>>>>>> Q6AFE? Obviously, we can only play one stream on an output port. But
>>>>>>> doesn't the ADSP mix streams together when you have multiple routes?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This patch will limit the USB_RX from being able to be mixed to multiple
>>>>>> q6adm paths.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, this doesn't actually check for *active* routes only. It just
>>>>>>> looks if any other MultiMedia DAI is configured to output to USB_RX.
>>>>>>> That doesn't mean they will ever be active at the same time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, the main reason being that that is the mechanism we use to populate
>>>>>> the active offload path within the USB SND card mixer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I might for example want to have MultiMedia1 and MultiMedia2 both
>>>>>>> configured to output to USB_RX. Let's assume MultiMedia1 is a normal PCM
>>>>>>> DAI, MultiMedia2 is a compress offload DAI. When I want to playback
>>>>>>> normal audio, I go through MultiMedia1, when I want to play compressed
>>>>>>> audio, I go through MultiMedia2. Only one of them active at a time.
>>>>>>> Why can't I set this up statically in the mixers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you confirm that it is really impossible to have multiple streams
>>>>>>> mixed together to the USB_RX output in the ADSP, then this should be a
>>>>>>> runtime check instead when starting the stream IMO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We can have multiple streams being mixed together, but it will get
>>>>>> confusing because it changes the definition that we had discussed about in
>>>>>> the past about the overall design for the interaction w/ userspace.
>>>>>> Although we (QC) only support a single USB audio device for offloading,
>>>>>> there could be other situations where the audio DSP can support multiple
>>>>>> devices. The assumption is that each MM path is assigned to a USB device.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you referring to the "USB Offload Playback Route PCM#*" mixers here?
>>>>> They could just refer to first of the configured MM paths, if someone
>>>>> decides to route multiple paths to the USB backend. Looking at
>>>>> q6usb_update_offload_route(), I think the implementation does that
>>>>> already.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it's fine that the userspace API for automatically "probing" the
>>>>> PCM device supports only a single path to the USB backend. But if
>>>>> someone wants to bypass the automatic probing and configure a more
>>>>> advanced setup, do we need to forbid that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Asked differently: what would happen if we remove this check here and
>>>>> handle USB_RX like any other Q6AFE output port? Would anything break for
>>>>> the userspace interface?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So I took a look at seeing how the Q6ADM/ASM interactions would work for
>>>> the situation where if user tried to start both MM1/2 streams at the same
>>>> time over the USB offload path. In this scenario, we see that the Q6USB BE
>>>> DAI operations, ie startup, hw_params, etc... gets called one time for the
>>>> initial stream. For example, if I start playback on MM1, then that
>>>> triggers the USB BE DAI to be brought up.
>>>>
>>>> When I start playback on MM2, since MM1 already called
>>>> dpcm_be_dai_startup(), then be->dpcm[stream].users will be greater than
>>>> zero. This would cause the __soc_pcm_open() to be skipped for the USB BE
>>>> DAI, so I wouldn't be able to check the runtime status at the Q6USB backend
>>>> DAI. However, we do track current streaming sessions done over Q6 ADM and
>>>> it does save the AFE port associated to each COPP allocation, so I think its
>>>> reasonable to see if there is already a COPP entry for the USB AFE port, to
>>>> fail the open() call associated to the FE DAI.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This sounds like a reasonable approach *if* we have to prevent multiple
>>> MM DAIs from streaming to the USB AFE port at the same time.
>>>
>>> It's still unclear to me why we have to introduce this limitation in the
>>> first place. I think the questions from my previous email are still
>>> open. Can you check them again?
>>>
>>
>> So I checked with our audio DSP folks, and they mentioned there isn't
>> technically a limitation from mixing multiple ADM streams from their end.
>> My observations are as follows:
>> - Using tinyplay to open and play on different FE PCM devices (ie MM1 and
>> MM2), both streams are audible on the USB headset (intermixed).
>> - If starting playback on MM1 first, before MM2, then once playback is
>> complete on MM1, the ADM close is also affecting the MM2 stream.
>> Basically, MM2 stops when the MM1 audio file is completed.
>> - Due to the abrupt/incomplete closing of the MM2 ADM stream, looks like
>> the audio DSP is not handling that case well, so subsequent playbacks fail.
>>
>
> Thanks a lot for testing this!
>
>> I did find a possible reason for this, and it seems to be due to some code
>> unrelated to the USB offload path directly. It looks like the Q6ADM is
>> currently built in a way that you can only route streams to a single
>> endpoint, even though we do have reference counting for each COPP profile.
>> So even after the first MM1 ADM stream completes and the PCM device is
>> closed, the MM1 ADM close callback will issue a q6adm_device_close() for
>> the USB AFE port.
>
> Yeah, this sounds like a bug to me...
>
>>
>> I made some test changes to account for the refcount before issuing the
>> q6adm_device_close(), and that seemed to work. Once the MM1 stream closes,
>> it allows for the MM2 stream to close/finish before issuing the command,
>> and that allows for proper cleanup of the audio data.
>>
>> IMO, I would like to keep the initial behavior (ie, blocking the additional
>> stream open from the kernel) until I can get some more testing done, and
>> figure out if this is the correct approach. If it is, I can submit a
>> follow up series to address it.
>>
>
> I'm fine with this approach. My only two concerns/comments are:
>
> 1. Let's make sure we don't waste too much time finding the ideal
> approach to implement the additional blocking, if this will likely
> end up getting removed again anyway.
>
> 2. How can we justify making this change only for USB? Your analysis
> sounds like the issue applies to all types of output ports. This was
> exactly my main concern with the check you added in this patch:
> I would expect QDSP6 treats all ports exactly the same. This means
> we should add this additional check for all the output ports...
>
Fair points...I will extend this check across all ports until I get back
with seeing how we can address the mixing situation.
Thanks
Wesley Cheng
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-03 0:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-19 0:51 [PATCH v36 00/31] Introduce QC USB SND audio offloading support Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 01/31] xhci: sideband: add initial api to register a secondary interrupter entity Wesley Cheng
2025-03-27 6:27 ` Puma Hsu
2025-03-27 7:02 ` Greg KH
2025-03-27 10:14 ` Puma Hsu
2025-03-27 10:48 ` Greg KH
2025-03-28 4:08 ` Puma Hsu
2025-03-27 16:12 ` Wesley Cheng
2025-03-28 4:11 ` Puma Hsu
2025-04-01 2:23 ` Jung Daehwan
2025-04-01 6:55 ` Greg KH
2025-04-01 7:50 ` Jung Daehwan
2025-03-27 10:13 ` Puma Hsu
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 02/31] usb: host: xhci-mem: Cleanup pending secondary event ring events Wesley Cheng
2025-03-28 7:42 ` Puma Hsu
2025-04-01 7:51 ` Jung Daehwan
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 03/31] usb: host: xhci-mem: Allow for interrupter clients to choose specific index Wesley Cheng
2025-03-28 7:43 ` Puma Hsu
2025-04-01 7:51 ` Jung Daehwan
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 04/31] usb: host: xhci-plat: Set XHCI max interrupters if property is present Wesley Cheng
2025-03-28 7:44 ` Puma Hsu
2025-04-01 7:52 ` Jung Daehwan
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 05/31] usb: host: xhci: Notify xHCI sideband on transfer ring free Wesley Cheng
2025-03-28 7:45 ` Puma Hsu
2025-04-01 7:52 ` Jung Daehwan
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 06/31] usb: dwc3: Specify maximum number of XHCI interrupters Wesley Cheng
2025-03-28 7:46 ` Puma Hsu
2025-04-01 7:53 ` Jung Daehwan
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 07/31] ALSA: Add USB audio device jack type Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 08/31] ALSA: usb-audio: Export USB SND APIs for modules Wesley Cheng
2025-03-28 7:47 ` Puma Hsu
2025-04-01 7:53 ` Jung Daehwan
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 09/31] ALSA: usb-audio: Check for support for requested audio format Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 10/31] ALSA: usb-audio: Save UAC sample size information Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 11/31] ALSA: usb-audio: Prevent starting of audio stream if in use Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 12/31] ALSA: usb-audio: Introduce USB SND platform op callbacks Wesley Cheng
2025-03-28 7:48 ` Puma Hsu
2025-04-01 7:53 ` Jung Daehwan
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 13/31] ALSA: usb-audio: Allow for rediscovery of connected USB SND devices Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 14/31] ASoC: Add SoC USB APIs for adding an USB backend Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 15/31] ASoC: usb: Add PCM format check API for " Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 16/31] ASoC: usb: Create SOC USB SND jack kcontrol Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 17/31] ASoC: usb: Fetch ASoC card and pcm device information Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 18/31] ASoC: usb: Rediscover USB SND devices on USB port add Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 19/31] ASoC: doc: Add documentation for SOC USB Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 20/31] ASoC: dt-bindings: qcom,q6dsp-lpass-ports: Add USB_RX port Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 21/31] ASoC: dt-bindings: Update example for enabling USB offload on SM8250 Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 22/31] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Introduce USB AFE port to q6dsp Wesley Cheng
2025-03-25 9:24 ` Stephan Gerhold
2025-03-25 23:18 ` Wesley Cheng
2025-03-26 9:57 ` Stephan Gerhold
2025-03-31 19:52 ` Wesley Cheng
2025-04-01 8:16 ` Stephan Gerhold
2025-04-01 23:47 ` Wesley Cheng
2025-04-02 14:41 ` Stephan Gerhold
2025-04-03 0:23 ` Wesley Cheng [this message]
2025-04-03 0:54 ` Wesley Cheng
2025-04-03 13:45 ` Stephan Gerhold
2025-04-03 15:58 ` Wesley Cheng
2025-04-03 18:00 ` Stephan Gerhold
2025-04-03 21:00 ` Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 23/31] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: q6afe: Increase APR timeout Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 24/31] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Add USB backend ASoC driver for Q6 Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 25/31] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Add headphone jack for offload connection status Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 26/31] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Fetch USB offload mapped card and PCM device Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 27/31] ALSA: usb-audio: qcom: Add USB QMI definitions Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 28/31] ALSA: usb-audio: qcom: Introduce QC USB SND offloading support Wesley Cheng
2025-03-25 9:47 ` Stephan Gerhold
2025-03-26 1:32 ` Wesley Cheng
2025-03-26 10:09 ` Stephan Gerhold
2025-03-27 16:57 ` Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 29/31] ALSA: usb-audio: qcom: Don't allow USB offload path if PCM device is in use Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 30/31] ALSA: usb-audio: qcom: Add USB offload route kcontrol Wesley Cheng
2025-03-25 11:35 ` Stephan Gerhold
2025-03-26 1:42 ` Wesley Cheng
2025-03-19 0:51 ` [PATCH v36 31/31] ALSA: usb-audio: qcom: Notify USB audio devices on USB offload probing Wesley Cheng
2025-03-21 13:13 ` [PATCH v36 00/31] Introduce QC USB SND audio offloading support Luca Weiss
2025-03-21 20:06 ` Wesley Cheng
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=7d5fd3bf-c33e-4274-938b-2fb93c4b39d8@quicinc.com \
--to=quic_wcheng@quicinc.com \
--cc=Thinh.Nguyen@synopsys.com \
--cc=broonie@kernel.org \
--cc=conor+dt@kernel.org \
--cc=corbet@lwn.net \
--cc=devicetree@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com \
--cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
--cc=krzk+dt@kernel.org \
--cc=lgirdwood@gmail.com \
--cc=linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-doc@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-input@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-sound@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-usb@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=luca.weiss@fairphone.com \
--cc=mathias.nyman@intel.com \
--cc=perex@perex.cz \
--cc=pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com \
--cc=robh@kernel.org \
--cc=srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org \
--cc=stephan.gerhold@linaro.org \
--cc=tiwai@suse.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox