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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Paul Menzel <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>,
	linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: testing/selftests/alsa/mixer-test: 10 failures on Dell XPS 13 9360
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2024 14:38:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ed8z8zsx.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6496e595-48e7-4c92-8239-7bf8fc9d73d9@perex.cz>

On Fri, 14 Jun 2024 13:42:05 +0200,
Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
> 
> On 14. 06. 24 13:33, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 13:38:18 +0200,
> > Mark Brown wrote:
> >> 
> >> On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 08:06:14PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> >>> Mark Brown wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 05:17:43PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2024 07:50:33 +0200,
> >> 
> >>>> I would say these are all bugs, they show the driver not correcting the
> >>>> value and allowing users to read back out of range values that were
> >>>> written.  Even if the driver is accepting out of range values I'd expect
> >>>> it to transform them somehow when storing, the program will accept a
> >>>> mismatched read when testing this case but it will complain if the read
> >>>> value is not valid according to the control's info.
> >> 
> >>> Ideally, yeah.  But it's a whack-a-mole game, and my gut feeling is
> >>> that it'd be better to enable the input validation globally, something
> >>> like below.
> >> 
> >> Yeah, I mean I tend to think the whole accepting invalid values thing is
> >> questionable to start off with so I do think that's a good idea.  That
> >> said we probably should still be fixing the drivers as well.
> > 
> > OK, I'm going to submit a patch set for addressing those.
> 
> I think that this check should be optional (as discussed some years
> ago), because the driver code can implement the validation / bitmask
> handling in a more efficient way that we can do in the ALSA core
> code. Those double checks are not so nice. But they may be enabled by
> default as suggested to log problems for users building custom
> kernels, IMHO.

Yes, what I've worked on are the coverage in HD-audio and vmaster code
as well as the enablement of validation for user control elements.
It's not about unconditional enablement of input validation.


thanks,

Takashi

      reply	other threads:[~2024-06-14 12:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-31  5:50 testing/selftests/alsa/mixer-test: 10 failures on Dell XPS 13 9360 Paul Menzel
2024-05-31 15:17 ` Takashi Iwai
2024-05-31 15:25   ` Paul Menzel
2024-05-31 16:03   ` Mark Brown
2024-05-31 18:06     ` Takashi Iwai
2024-06-03 11:38       ` Mark Brown
2024-06-14 11:33         ` Takashi Iwai
2024-06-14 11:42           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2024-06-14 12:38             ` Takashi Iwai [this message]

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