From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp-out2.suse.de (smtp-out2.suse.de [195.135.223.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A201A37BE92 for ; Fri, 15 May 2026 09:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=195.135.223.131 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1778836851; cv=none; b=IJcQ6UY2vlM/GJROuEnTZEK4RngXQnmWZ/nBuUPloD6p512yq5dJ5xA7rENC1A5+mCTEnHbghJ07Wl3vsVkUO3lflJ/iyQzD+SXHiwFGhwnfWZT+nWtVqEGfRsOFfXYBtkvjbDBiL+aI6F9iUzOc1JqASS4nnrguQhvLAd8Qefc= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1778836851; c=relaxed/simple; bh=pglsJXT3VgJUYj7z2E7Z/sOBIgTy+qS24DyVkWMe+E8=; h=Date:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=K8fuA+XN7EShRP5iiVmXSu0W+TmqhZz+/MZxLkg3oIKFNX6pCwgtAcHCWPVSzxausgg1mxr1hxlSSWYlX8f+H95jROga51S2OECE5LEClIQ9QAcQwf4xcNqs//o9qHx8Uci1LK13OI6GAOdwy1o/+66hOPCJG31F//sI9FiyBxs= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=suse.de; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=suse.de; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=suse.de header.i=@suse.de header.b=KCc5A66f; dkim=permerror (0-bit key) header.d=suse.de header.i=@suse.de header.b=7UQfK3el; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=suse.de header.i=@suse.de header.b=F+6SqPVU; dkim=permerror (0-bit key) header.d=suse.de header.i=@suse.de header.b=yqcpcpIJ; arc=none smtp.client-ip=195.135.223.131 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=suse.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=suse.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=suse.de header.i=@suse.de header.b="KCc5A66f"; dkim=permerror (0-bit key) header.d=suse.de header.i=@suse.de header.b="7UQfK3el"; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=suse.de header.i=@suse.de header.b="F+6SqPVU"; dkim=permerror (0-bit key) header.d=suse.de header.i=@suse.de header.b="yqcpcpIJ" Received: from imap1.dmz-prg2.suse.org (imap1.dmz-prg2.suse.org [IPv6:2a07:de40:b281:104:10:150:64:97]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-out2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6F0366D07; Fri, 15 May 2026 09:20:45 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.de; s=susede2_rsa; t=1778836846; h=from:from:reply-to:date:date:message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc: mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=k/yqZGF3pUUwv8PCjwjqmxF6uTW5Oi3M4ShqmteYLcY=; b=KCc5A66f7wY62pW21y/PfDj+E5Z4F5BRSfZ6LPywzYAZMENv9digwnIrRRudDHSNb6Csbt M9ecnCPQObFrbXx/058i50g7Ak/R4zmzgmvjgO4lFEgMk+l/yGazyBJ6JsEQmGLMvDNrNH z5vHa5+102m9fOncjSshBeqxD+Z+2PU= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.de; s=susede2_ed25519; t=1778836846; h=from:from:reply-to:date:date:message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc: mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=k/yqZGF3pUUwv8PCjwjqmxF6uTW5Oi3M4ShqmteYLcY=; b=7UQfK3el++rtYhCjw1SLulIb3OeF2apr+6dfrLwOnyp1cymGTq1CUNbei1T/lelUyEW3fs Xh7t3oh+43iQCaDA== Authentication-Results: smtp-out2.suse.de; dkim=pass header.d=suse.de header.s=susede2_rsa header.b=F+6SqPVU; dkim=pass header.d=suse.de header.s=susede2_ed25519 header.b=yqcpcpIJ DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.de; s=susede2_rsa; t=1778836845; h=from:from:reply-to:date:date:message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc: mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=k/yqZGF3pUUwv8PCjwjqmxF6uTW5Oi3M4ShqmteYLcY=; b=F+6SqPVUg13ZytaDsX+LF6y4mZW+RDt371Rimj8+fgioGoS0BpU1/1EIZpjEGOW1RaenUI fvuMu/xZuZ2VPqbGAhsJJZsnoQgzm5AvUarDdAng3N1VWvWxqMCA3XLpAmMovGWz+YoXSM sfyvsD/9IQfhZw09EHVtxQ6zz1cRfvY= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.de; s=susede2_ed25519; t=1778836845; h=from:from:reply-to:date:date:message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc: mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=k/yqZGF3pUUwv8PCjwjqmxF6uTW5Oi3M4ShqmteYLcY=; b=yqcpcpIJyO+ulvl8UYEMQEhD7PWP3Yt5orH1aymF9s8/eMfDbutFkXuY5CowgFsuUrB0fu T7BRkIVcUl3IraAQ== Received: from imap1.dmz-prg2.suse.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by imap1.dmz-prg2.suse.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81881593A9; Fri, 15 May 2026 09:20:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dovecot-director2.suse.de ([2a07:de40:b281:106:10:150:64:167]) by imap1.dmz-prg2.suse.org with ESMTPSA id tOZxHm3lBmrZZwAAD6G6ig (envelope-from ); Fri, 15 May 2026 09:20:45 +0000 Date: Fri, 15 May 2026 11:20:45 +0200 Message-ID: <87ik8pt4eq.wl-tiwai@suse.de> From: Takashi Iwai To: Dutch Ingraham Cc: Matt DeVillier , Takashi Iwai , Harin Lee , Thorsten Leemhuis , Jaroslav Kysela , Takashi Iwai , Linux kernel regressions list , Linux Sound System , LKML Subject: Re: [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones connected on >=7.0.x In-Reply-To: References: <36875d66-f601-4d18-9654-bd86b60918e8@leemhuis.info> <87bjett3ud.wl-tiwai@suse.de> <7929c116-ff2e-413b-ae73-e7d19e846e0f@harin.net> <87v7czrasg.wl-tiwai@suse.de> <87qznnpd2p.wl-tiwai@suse.de> <87cxz7p8b3.wl-tiwai@suse.de> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/30.2 Mule/6.0 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-sound@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Level: X-Rspamd-Action: no action X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.01 / 50.00]; BAYES_HAM(-3.00)[100.00%]; SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS(1.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[suse.de:s=susede2_rsa,suse.de:s=susede2_ed25519]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.20)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_SIGNED(0.00)[suse.de:s=susede2_rsa,suse.de:s=susede2_ed25519]; FUZZY_RATELIMITED(0.00)[rspamd.com]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmx.us]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVRCPT(0.00)[gmail.com,gmx.us]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,suse.de,harin.net,leemhuis.info,perex.cz,suse.com,lists.linux.dev,vger.kernel.org]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[10]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[suse.de:+]; SPAMHAUS_XBL(0.00)[2a07:de40:b281:104:10:150:64:97:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C6F0366D07 X-Rspamd-Server: rspamd2.dmz-prg2.suse.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.01 On Thu, 07 May 2026 20:23:25 +0200, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2026 at 10:12 AM > > From: "Matt DeVillier" > > To: "Takashi Iwai" > > Cc: "Dutch Ingraham" , "Harin Lee" , "Thorsten Leemhuis" , "Jaroslav Kysela" , "Takashi Iwai" , "Linux kernel regressions list" , "Linux Sound System" , "LKML" > > Subject: Re: [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones connected on >=7.0.x > > > > On Thu, May 7, 2026 at 10:07 AM Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 07 May 2026 17:02:14 +0200, > > > Matt DeVillier wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 7, 2026 at 8:24 AM Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, 07 May 2026 14:47:03 +0200, > > > > Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2026 at 1:30 AM > > > > > > From: "Takashi Iwai" > > > > > > To: "Harin Lee" > > > > > > Cc: "Takashi Iwai" , "Thorsten Leemhuis" < > > > > regressions@leemhuis.info>, "Jaroslav Kysela" , "Takashi > > > > Iwai" , "Linux kernel regressions list" < > > > > regressions@lists.linux.dev>, "Linux Sound System" < > > > > linux-sound@vger.kernel.org>, "LKML" , > > > > stoa@gmx.us > > > > > > Subject: Re: [regression] ctxfi: no speaker output when headphones > > > > connected on >=7.0.x > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 07 May 2026 00:06:11 +0200, > > > > > > Harin Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/6/26 4:05 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, 06 May 2026 08:24:36 +0200, > > > > > > > > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Hi! Just FYI, I noticed a regression report in bugzilla: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221461 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> To quote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> Dutch Ingraham 2026-05-03 18:12:49 UTC > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Kernels >=7.0.1 contain a regression as to Creative Sound > > > > Blaster Z SE > > > > > > > >>> discrete pci sound card, but not integrated. Kernels 7.0.1, > > > > 7.0.2, and > > > > > > > >>> 7.0.3 tested; 7.0.0 not tested. Reverting to any 6.18.x or > > > > 6.12.x does > > > > > > > >>> not present the issue. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Specifically, using pipewire managed by pavucontrol, on both > > > > Gentoo and > > > > > > > >>> Arch Linux, when both external speakers and headphones are > > > > connected, > > > > > > > >>> all sound is routed through the headphones regardless of > > > > whether settings > > > > > > > >>> are set to Line Out/Speaker or Line Out/Headphones; there is no > > > > speaker > > > > > > > >>> output. If headphones are disconnected, without reboot, > > > > speakers work; > > > > > > > >>> reconnect headphones, without reboot, sound reverts to > > > > headphones. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Kernel: 7.0.3, Gentoo compiled from source using olddefconfig > > > > on 6.18.24 > > > > > > > >>> .config; Arch standard release > > > > > > > >>> 'lspci -nnk | grep -i audio' attached > > > > > > > >>> 'dmesg | grep -i audio' for 7.0.3 and 6.18.24 attached > > > > > > > >>> pipewire-1.6.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux > > > > > > > >>> alsa-firmware-1.2.4 on both Gentoo and Arch Linux > > > > > > > >>> 'cat /proc/sys/kernel/tainted' returns 0 for both Gentoo and > > > > Arch Linux > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Processor : AMD Ryzen7 5700G > > > > > > > >>> Motherboard : Asus Prime X570-Pro > > > > > > > >>> RAM : Patriot Viper Steel DDR-4 > > > > @3200mHz > > > > > > > >>> Graphics : ASRock AMD Radeon RX 7600 Challenger 8GB OC > > > > > > > >>> Sound Card : Creative Sound Blaster Z SE > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Expected outcome: ability to choose output to either speakers > > > > or head- > > > > > > > >>> phones while both are plugged-in to sound card. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Workaround: none known. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> See the ticket for more details. One of them: 7.1-rc2 is > > > > affected as > > > > > > > >> well. Reporter is CCed. Forwarded this to ensure this report > > > > makes it to > > > > > > > >> the interested parties, as bugzilla might not have forwarded > > > > this. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Dutch Ingraham: if nobody within a few days has an idea why this > > > > > > > >> happens, you will likely have to use a git bisection to get this > > > > resolved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As there have been many significant changes in ctxfi since 6.18, > > > > it's > > > > > > > > hard to tell what broke. Please go git bisect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Takashi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Creative Sound Blaster Z-series uses the snd_hda_codec_ca0132 > > > > driver, > > > > > > > not snd_ctxfi. The dmesg logs in the bugzilla shows only ca0132 > > > > > > > entries. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, sorry, then it's easier. The only major change is the > > > > > > commit 778031e1658d206a52bf9491c91ae5d4f4a2509d > > > > > > ALSA: hda/ca0132: Set HP/Speaker auto-detect default from > > > > headphone pin verb > > > > > > > > > > > > Try to revert this one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Takashi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can confirm this seems like a good candidate. I built and tested > > > > 6.19.14 > > > > > and 7.0. On 6.19.14, speakers work as expected; on 7.0, speakers are > > > > not > > > > > working as expected and the offending patch is included in the 7.0 > > > > patchset. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you all for your work on this issue. > > > > > > > > OK, then let's put Matt to the party. > > > > Matt, could you help for debugging the regression? > > > > > > > > Takashi > > > > > > > > I can confirm the regression here on my 2013 Chromebook Pixel w/CA0132. > > > > > > > > Looking more closely, the issue is that tVNID_HP_ASEL and VNID_HP_SEL are > > > > mutually exclusive selection sources in ca0132_select_out() / > > > > ca0132_alt_select_out(), > > > > and auto-detect always "wins." So, enabling auto-detect effectively disabled > > > > user > > > > override. > > > > > > > > While reverting would fix this problem, it would reintroduce the problem of > > > > jack-detect being > > > > ignored completely. A better solution would be to default to auto-detect, but > > > > allow manual selection > > > > to override. Here's a quick patch I whipped up that should resolve the issue > > > > (untested though): > > > > --- > > > > From: Matt DeVillier > > > > Date: Thu, 7 May 2026 09:58:41 -0500 > > > > Subject: [PATCH] ALSA: hda/ca0132: Disable auto-detect on manual output > > > > select > > > > > > > > Commit 778031e1658d ("ALSA: hda/ca0132: Set HP/Speaker > > > > auto-detect default from headphone pin verb") enables HP/Speaker > > > > auto-detect by default when the headphone pin supports presence detect. > > > > > > > > With auto-detect enabled, ca0132_select_out() and ca0132_alt_select_out() > > > > choose the output from jack presence instead of the manual HP/Speaker > > > > selection. This means selecting speaker output while headphones are > > > > plugged in updates the control state, but audio still routes to the > > > > headphones. > > > > > > > > Treat an explicit manual output selection as a request to leave > > > > auto-detect mode. Clear the HP/Speaker auto-detect switch before applying > > > > the manual selection, and notify userspace so the auto-detect control > > > > state is updated in mixers. Do this for both the normal HP/Speaker > > > > Playback Switch and the alternate Output Select control used by desktop > > > > cards. > > > > > > > > This keeps auto-detect enabled by default for devices with jack presence > > > > detection, while preserving the expected behavior that a manual output > > > > choice takes effect immediately. > > > > > > > > Fixes: 778031e1658d ("ALSA: hda/ca0132: Set HP/Speaker auto-detect default > > > > from headphone pin verb") > > > > Signed-off-by: Matt DeVillier > > > > --- > > > > sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c | 44 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------------- > > > > 1 file changed, 31 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-) > > > > > > > > diff --git a/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c b/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c > > > > index ad533b04ab29..be565ffaade0 100644 > > > > --- a/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c > > > > +++ b/sound/hda/codecs/ca0132.c > > > > @@ -5498,6 +5498,30 @@ static int zxr_headphone_gain_set(struct hda_codec > > > > *codec, long val) > > > > return 0; > > > > } > > > (snip) > > > > > > It looks like that the patch is malformed by your mailer. > > > For avoiding unneeded troubles, please fix the setup or give an > > > attachment, too. > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > Takashi > > > > My apologies, forgot to ensure text-mode sending when I replied. > > Hopefully better this time. > > > > regards, > > Matt > > > > Patched against originally non-working v7.0. Now, works as expected; can > choose Line Out / Speaker or Line Out / Headphones and default holds > across reboots. > > Thank you Matt and all others who gave your attention to this issue. Thanks for confirmation. Now I applied the fix. Takashi