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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: "Amadeusz Sławiński" <amadeuszx.slawinski@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@intel.com>,
	linux-sound@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add support for detection
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 15:11:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y12ory4x.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241016130228.1013227-1-amadeuszx.slawinski@linux.intel.com>

On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 15:02:24 +0200,
Amadeusz Sławiński wrote:
> 
> There are some scenarios when using DSP where one may want to have
> partially active stream and fully enable it after some event occurs.
> 
> Following patchset adds new "detect" state to ALSA state machine to
> allow waiting for condition to occur before fully starting a stream. In
> further patches the state is propagated through ASoC components to allow
> them to handling the state as necessary.
> 
> Main goal of this patchset is to allow handling scenarios like keyphrase
> detection - where DSP analyses incoming signal and wakes userspace to
> consume stream only when keyphrase is detected.
> 
> I'm sending this as RFC so we can discuss if this is the way to go or if
> there is perhaps another preferred way of adding such interface.
> Userspace part of implementation is available at
> https://github.com/amadeuszslawinski-intel/alsa-lib/tree/rfc_detect
> 
> Amadeusz Sławiński (4):
>   ALSA: core: Add support for running detect on capture stream
>   ALSA: core: Allow polling for detection
>   ASoC: pcm: Add support for running detect on capture stream
>   ASoC: Propagate DETECT trigger

Generally speaking, the addition of a new PCM state should be avoided.
It'll influence too badly on all user-space programs.  e.g. if an old
user-space program receives such a new state, what should it do?
How can it know it's a fatal error or it can be ignored / skipped?

And, if it's about the synchronization of the DSP readiness, can't it
be rather synced in each PCM open or prepare instead?


Takashi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-10-16 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-16 13:02 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add support for detection Amadeusz Sławiński
2024-10-16 13:02 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] ALSA: core: Add support for running detect on capture stream Amadeusz Sławiński
2024-10-16 13:02 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] ALSA: core: Allow polling for detection Amadeusz Sławiński
2024-10-16 13:02 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] ASoC: pcm: Add support for running detect on capture stream Amadeusz Sławiński
2024-10-16 13:02 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] ASoC: Propagate DETECT trigger Amadeusz Sławiński
2024-10-16 13:11 ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2024-10-16 13:29   ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add support for detection Amadeusz Sławiński
2024-10-16 13:47     ` Takashi Iwai
2024-10-18 14:16       ` Amadeusz Sławiński
2024-10-18 17:15         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2024-10-22 15:11           ` Amadeusz Sławiński
2024-10-16 13:41 ` Jaroslav Kysela

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