From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jesper Juhl Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 20:56:20 +0000 Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal Message-Id: <9a8748490601031256x916bddav794fecdcf263fb55@mail.gmail.com> List-Id: References: <20050726150837.GT3160@stusta.de> <200601031522.06898.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> <20060103160502.GB5262@irc.pl> <200601031629.21765.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> <20060103170316.GA12249@dspnet.fr.eu.org> <20060103203732.GF5262@irc.pl> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Takashi Iwai Cc: Tomasz Torcz , Olivier Galibert , Alistair John Strachan , Jan Engelhardt , Andi Kleen , Adrian Bunk , perex@suse.cz, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, James@superbug.demon.co.uk, sailer@ife.ee.ethz.ch, linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, zab@zabbo.net, kyle@parisc-linux.org, parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org, jgarzik@pobox.com, Thorsten Knabe , zwane@commfireservices.com, zaitcev@yahoo.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 1/3/06, Takashi Iwai wrote: > At Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:37:32 +0100, > Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 09:22:58PM +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > At Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:03:16 +0100, > > > Olivier Galibert wrote: > > > > > > > > > This is exactly why the OSS emulation option in ALSA is really a last resort > > > > > and should not be an excuse for people to ignore implementing ALSA support > > > > > directly. More so, it is very good justification for ditching "everything > > > > > OSS" as soon as possible, at least in new software. > > > > > > > > Actually the crappy state of OSS emulation is a good reason to ditch > > > > ALSA in its current implementation. As Linus reminded not so long > > > > ago, backwards compatibility is extremely important. > > > > > > Well, we keep the compatibility exactly -- OSS drivers don't support > > > software mixing in the kernel, too :) > > > > OSS will support software mixing. In kernel. On NetBSD. > > http://kerneltrap.org/node/4388 > > Why do we need to keep the compatibility with NetBSD? > Software mixing is a really nice feature for people with soundscards that can't do hardware mixing, so if the OSS compatibility could transparently do software mixing for apps using OSS api that would be a very nice extension for a lot of people - I'd say that if NetBSD do that they've got the right idea. -- Jesper Juhl Don't top-post http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/top-post.html Plain text mails only, please http://www.expita.com/nomime.html