From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: est@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:10:05 +0000 Subject: mmap()/mlockall()/read() Message-Id: List-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: linux-sound@vger.kernel.org Benno Senoner discourseth: > > Eric, > when not mlock()-ing the entire process (or at least the RT relevant data), > you have no chance to give ANY guarantee thet some pages could > not be swapped out. That's exactly my concern..I have no guarantees that I won't run into N page-faults in a given period and miss my deadlines. Unfortunately, locking and mapping aren't that flexible. I need to use mlockall(MCL_CURRENT | MCL_FUTURE) to make sure I have no page faults. Then anything I mmap() will be initially locked as well..even though it may be larger than my RAM. A MAP_UNLOCKED option to mmap() would be a non-portable solution. > What I'm trying to say: read() doesn't work better than mmap() in terms of > behaviour during swapping, because the kernel could easily swap out > your buffer where you read() in the data. Actually, the last time I tested this extensively (with a 2.0.x kernel I think), mmap() was much better performing than read()..for a while. When sequential accessing of a file got to a point around my RAM limits, the disk activity became insane. Maybe things are better now. > I will add a feature to the pagefaulter thread which uses mlock()/munlock if > root privileges are available, so that even > Eric is satisfied. > :-) Eric is hard to satisfy. :) > PS: mlockall(MCL_CURRENT|MCL_FUTURE) is a bad idea because when you do the > mmap() of the large file the process tries to load all into mem,and my scheme > would not work. Better to use mlockall(MCL_CURRENT) and mlock()/munlock() > areas on demand. This is a useful solution in some circumstances. However, it means I can't use malloc()/new, may have trouble with shared libraries or dynamically loaded plugins and have to worry about reserving stack space. It's not the way I want to work. Eric