From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Benno Senoner Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:57:05 +0000 Subject: Re: best sound format and app. for recording voice. Message-Id: List-Id: References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: linux-sound@vger.kernel.org On Sun, 13 Feb 2000, Kai Vehmanen wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Benno Senoner wrote: > > > encoder. Anyway I try to avoid proprietary codecs. > > ( Realnetworks still not able to deliver a decent realplayer for linux, > > my guess is that if they do not open their protocols , Microsoft will kill > > them just like they did with Nescape > > It's interesting to see, what RealNetworks is going to do in the > near future. IMHO RN should open-source all their players and > encoders, and for all platforms. And they should do it now. This would > have quite an impact. As mp3 suffers from licensing problems, many > people would prefer a GPL'ed RA-de/encoder. Let's hope this happens. I wouldn't be a Realnetworks shareholder right now ... :-) they still think that they can fight M$ but with proprietary models this will just not work. Did you notice that they pulled Realaduio support from the latest mediaplayer ? Why ? , simple: to force users to use MS-Audio. Because Joe Average is too lazy (or too dumb :-) ) to download the RA Player. :-) If Realnetworks doesn't react right now, (opensourcing codecs would give them a big boost in terms of acceptance). It could easy happen that Linux will save their a** because the level playing field of Linux. But if we wait too much, all streaming sites will only run MS-Audio , and M$ will be able to control the entire streming arena. ( with the advent of broadband , streaming will be a big $$$ business, and M$ wants all of the pie) > > > But as Artur pointed out, GSM isn't that bad at 12kbit/sec, > [...] > > or if you want extreme low bit rates use the LPC-10 code , down to 2.4kbit/sec, > > = 1.1MB/hour :-) > [...] > > But I don't know if the quality high enough for you > > http://www.arl.wustl.edu/~jaf/lpc/ > > Yep, there are plenty of encoders out there, but when distributing > your music (or some other "popular" activity), ease of use and > availability are crucial. And RealAudio is easy to use and it is > widely spread. Agreed, but in this case the user wanted only to store his voice recordings on his own disk, therefore a special codec would be appropriate. Benno.