From: Hannes Eder <hannes@hanneseder.net>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Christopher Li <sparse@chrisli.org>, linux-sparse@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] test-suite: new preprocessor test case
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:51:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <154e089b0903191151q37ab7b20o43838845af12966f@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090319182628.GB28946@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 06:56:11PM +0100, Hannes Eder wrote:
>> Sparse currently fails on this test.
>
> It doesn't. 6.10.3p11: "If there are sequences of preprocessing tokens
> within the list of arguments that would otherwise act as preprocessing
> directives, the behavior is undefined."
>
> You are asking for identical nasal demons from two implementations, when
> it's not even promised that the same kind will fly on two invocations of
> the same implementation...
>
> Seriously, this is undefined behaviour *and* it's extermely hard to come
> up with self-consistent semantics for it. Standard doesn't even try and
> implementations are doing whatever's more convenient at the moment. Try
> to think of it and you'll come up with really ugly corner cases very fast.
>
> What we probably ought to do is a warning when such stuff happens.
Ok, I see. It's not a bug, but I wouldn't consider it as a feature either :)
When currently running sparse agains the current linux-next tree, a
lot of checks produce error messages like this:
include/linux/skbuff.h:381:9: error: expected preprocessor identifier
where gcc happily compiles it, because it preprocesses it differently
e.g.
$ gcc -E -P validation/preprocessor/preprocessor22.c
struct { int b; } a;;
comparing to
$ sparse -E
struct {
} a;;
This difference makes sparse at the moment less applicable to the
linux(-next) tree.
What can be done about that?
-Hannes
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-19 18:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-19 17:56 [PATCH] test-suite: new preprocessor test case Hannes Eder
2009-03-19 18:26 ` Al Viro
2009-03-19 18:51 ` Hannes Eder [this message]
2009-03-19 19:07 ` Nasal demons in preprocessor use (Re: [PATCH] test-suite: new preprocessor test case) Al Viro
2009-03-19 19:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-19 19:39 ` Al Viro
2009-03-19 20:20 ` Vegard Nossum
2009-03-19 22:07 ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-03-20 18:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-20 19:04 ` Al Viro
2009-03-20 19:14 ` Al Viro
2009-03-20 23:16 ` Vegard Nossum
2009-03-20 23:44 ` Al Viro
2009-03-21 8:34 ` Johannes Berg
2009-03-27 3:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-19 19:24 ` [PATCH] test-suite: new preprocessor test case Derek M Jones
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