From: Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
To: Derek M Jones <derek@knosof.co.uk>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Neil Booth <neil@daikokuya.co.uk>,
Josh Triplett <josh@freedesktop.org>,
linux-sparse@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: fun with ?:
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 01:02:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070524000240.GC4095@ftp.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4654CE67.9070106@knosof.co.uk>
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 12:29:43AM +0100, Derek M Jones wrote:
> It was intended as a probabilit statement (ok, I did not make that
> clear). An expression containing n+n is more likely to overflow
> than one containing n-n.
Gimme a break.
a) s/int/unsigned and run that through gcc; no change in behaviour
b) no fscking way in hell *either* is acceptable for bitfield
width - definitely not with -std=c99 -pedantic. Violates 6.6p6 and 6.7.2.1p3.
c) what's happening is pretty obvious - the difference is not in
overflows, it's in expression tree structure (remember, + and - are
left-to-right). gcc throws several cheap optimizations at the expression
and checks if it has come up with a constant. Simple common factors are taken
out (n*m - n*m is seen as 0), common subexpressions are not recognized
((n+m)-(n+m) is not seen as constant).
d) (c) is an exercise in software proctology - gcc has an obvious
bug in that area (mishandling recognition of integer constant expressions),
period.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-24 0:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-19 2:52 fun with ?: Al Viro
2007-05-22 21:40 ` Josh Triplett
2007-05-22 22:46 ` Al Viro
2007-05-22 23:24 ` Josh Triplett
2007-05-23 0:02 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 0:25 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 1:05 ` Josh Triplett
2007-05-23 4:53 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 12:26 ` Morten Welinder
2007-05-23 1:03 ` Josh Triplett
2007-06-03 1:05 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 14:25 ` Neil Booth
2007-05-23 14:32 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 14:47 ` Neil Booth
2007-05-23 15:32 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 23:01 ` Neil Booth
2007-05-24 0:10 ` Derek M Jones
2007-05-24 0:14 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 21:16 ` Derek M Jones
2007-05-23 21:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-23 23:29 ` Derek M Jones
2007-05-24 0:02 ` Al Viro [this message]
2007-05-24 0:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-24 1:36 ` Brett Nash
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