From: Kamil Dudka <kdudka@redhat.com>
To: Christopher Li <sparse@chrisli.org>
Cc: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>,
linux-sparse@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Sparse crash when mixing int and enum in ternary operator
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:23:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201003292123.40443.kdudka@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <70318cbf1003291148w6b338b25v6801c3ec146af0f9@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon March 29 2010 20:48:38 Christopher Li wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Kamil Dudka <kdudka@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Mon March 29 2010 20:05:08 Christopher Li wrote:
> >> Using enum namespace for member "namespace" has benefit here. It is
> >> clear that which set of value it belongs to. E.g. if you assign
> >> SYM_NODE into "namespace" member it *looks* is obvious wrong.
> >
> > We are able to catch assignment of SYM_NODE to 'enum namespace'. But we
> > are not able to catch (SYM_NODE | SYM_ENUM) to 'enum namespace', so that
> > the patch makes no difference. Or am I missing anything?
>
> I am refering to your patch in other email:
>
> struct symbol_op {
> - enum keyword type;
> + int type;
>
> That is worse. Because you make type as plain int, I can assign NS_KEYWORD
Have you tried it with sparse without my patch applied? You indeed can assign
NS_KEYWORD to 'enum keyword' and sparse is silent ;-)
> there and you wouldn't able to catch any thing right? So you make the enum
> so strict that
> we can't use it any more.
>
> Currently the compiler might not able to catch it. But it look obvious
> wrong to human
> eye if you assign other class of enum there.
Type-info makes sense for compilers, analyzers, etc. If you treat it as
plain-text information for humans with no underlying support of that tools,
it's equal to Hungarian notation IMO.
> > I don't think the code looks worse, nevertheless respect your attitude.
>
> See my previous comment.
>
> I just want to make sense of this thing. Currently I see a lot of down
> sides, forcing people to do more explicit cast or avoid using the enum
> type completely. What is the up side again?
>
> Remember, too much warning can be a bad thing as well. It makes people
> don't want
> to use the tool or just turn off the warning completely. When I run sparse
> over its own source code, I consider those warning useless because I don't
> have a better
> way to fix it. I think the source code is fine as it is.
Sure, I don't object it anyhow. As a C++ programmer I've certainly different
attitude to type safety, thus biased. I believe kernel developers would more
likely agree with your point of view.
> BTW, I have move the enum warning to a new branch:
>
> http://git.kernel.org/?p=devel/sparse/sparse.enum-warning.git;a=summary
>
> Some people might find it useful in special occasions. I want to heard
> about it.
Looks great, though it really wasn't my intention to fork anything :-)
Kamil
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-29 19:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-09 1:24 Sparse crash when mixing int and enum in ternary operator Pavel Roskin
2010-03-09 5:43 ` Christopher Li
2010-03-09 13:46 ` Kamil Dudka
2010-03-09 18:26 ` Pavel Roskin
2010-03-09 18:35 ` Pavel Roskin
2010-03-09 19:06 ` Kamil Dudka
2010-03-09 19:15 ` Josh Triplett
2010-03-09 20:11 ` Pavel Roskin
2010-03-09 20:29 ` Kamil Dudka
2010-03-09 23:30 ` Kamil Dudka
2010-03-10 1:09 ` Pavel Roskin
2010-03-10 16:05 ` Kamil Dudka
2010-03-10 20:27 ` Pavel Roskin
2010-03-10 20:44 ` Kamil Dudka
2010-03-10 21:03 ` Kamil Dudka
2010-03-10 21:56 ` Christopher Li
2010-03-13 17:22 ` Kamil Dudka
2010-03-21 15:27 ` Kamil Dudka
2010-03-24 10:07 ` Christopher Li
2010-03-24 10:51 ` Kamil Dudka
2010-03-27 9:16 ` Kamil Dudka
2010-03-27 9:29 ` Josh Triplett
2010-03-27 9:53 ` [PATCH] eliminate insane conversions from int to enum Kamil Dudka
2010-03-29 18:11 ` Christopher Li
2010-03-29 18:05 ` Sparse crash when mixing int and enum in ternary operator Christopher Li
2010-03-29 18:17 ` Kamil Dudka
2010-03-29 18:48 ` Christopher Li
2010-03-29 19:23 ` Kamil Dudka [this message]
2010-03-30 5:29 ` Pavel Roskin
2010-03-29 21:26 ` Josh Triplett
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