From: Luc Van Oostenryck <luc.vanoostenryck@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Sparse Mailing-list <linux-sparse@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Making structs with variable-sized arrays unsized?
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 22:41:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200918204149.eqpl352wygwem34a@ltop.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wgJZ05ap8VQdzWDWJVWVtZiOYTc6cnNB8gNeQzEnfm-tw@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 12:33:56PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Luc,
> we've been making kernel structures use flexible arrays as a
> cleanliness thing, but it turns out that it doesn't find bugs that it
> _should_ find.
>
> We have that nice "struct_size()" macro to determine the size of the
> flexible structure given the number of elements, which uses "offsetof
> + n*members". But sadly standard C still allows the (nonsensical)
> 'sizeof()' to be used - and I merged another fix for that just today.
>
> Ok, so that's a C standard problem, but it's something that sparse
> *could* warn about.
Yes, sure.
I think that sparse treats flexible arrays exactly as if zero-sized,
without the notion of 'incomplete type' and without check that it is
the last member, so without any warnings.
This, I think, explains the results in your tests here under.
I'll look to add some warnings for array declaration and sizeof()
(explicit or implicit).
> Comments? Appended is a kind of test-case for odd situations that
> sparse happily and silently generates nonsensical code for (just
> tested with test-linearize).
Thanks, these tests make a lot of sense.
It should be noted, though, that test-linearize gives exactly the
same result as GCC & clang (sparse IR 100% matches x86 & ARM64 here).
I also have 2 questions here under.
> struct bad {
> unsigned long long a;
> char b[];
> };
...
> // The layout is odd
> // The code does "info->align_size = 0" for unsized arrays, but it
> still works?
> int odd(struct bad *a)
> {
> return __alignof__(*a);
> }
This returns 8. What's odd here?
The 0 align_size is only for the member 'b' and shouldn't have any
effect on the alignment of the whole struct. What am I missing?
> // Arrays of flexible-array structures are pretty nonsensical
> // Plus we don't even optimize the constant return. Sad.
> int not_nice(struct bad p[2])
> {
> return (void *)(p+1) - (void *)p;
> }
I don't understand what you mean by 'optimize the constant return'.
test-linearize returns the only possible sensical answer (if the size
of the structure is accepted to be 8):
not_nice:
.L2:
<entry-point>
ret.32 $8
What could be optimized here?
-- Luc
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Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-18 19:33 Making structs with variable-sized arrays unsized? Linus Torvalds
2020-09-18 20:41 ` Luc Van Oostenryck [this message]
2020-09-18 20:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-18 21:04 ` Luc Van Oostenryck
2020-09-30 23:28 ` Luc Van Oostenryck
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