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From: Derek M Jones <derek-Qjv84pu2YCLQXOPxS62xeg@public.gmane.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Harvey Harrison
	<harvey.harrison-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Christopher Li <sparse-55XgFHCVCFZAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Julia Lawall <julia-dAYI7NvHqcQ@public.gmane.org>,
	yi.zhu-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	ipw3945-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	kernel-janitors-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Alexander Viro <viro-rfM+Q5joDG/XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-sparse-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Josh Triplett <josh-CC+yJ3UmIYqDUpFQwHEjaQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/9] drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwl-4965.c: Correct use of ! and &
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:13:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47CE8E68.5060701@knosof.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080305081904.GA17789-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>

All,

>>> i think there might be similar patterns: "x & !y", "!x | y", "x | !y" ?
>>>
>> Well, (!x & y) and (!x | y) are probably the two that might have been 
>> intended otherwise.  (x & !y), (x | !y) are probably ok.
> 
> i think the proper intention in the latter cases is (x & ~y) and
> (x | ~y).
> 
> My strong bet is that in 99% of the cases they are real bugs and && or 
> || was intended.

Developer knowledge of operator precedence and the issue of what
they intended to write are interesting topics.  Some experimental
work is described in (binary operators only I'm afraid):

www.knosof.co.uk/cbook/accu06a.pdf
www.knosof.co.uk/cbook/accu07a.pdf

The ACCU 2006 experiment provides evidence that developer knowledge
is proportional to the number of occurrences of a construct in
source code, it also shows a stunningly high percentage of incorrect
answers.

The ACCU 2007 experiment provides evidence that the names of the
operands has a significant impact on operator precedence choice.

I wonder what kind of names are used as the operand of unary
operators?

I would expect the ~ operator to have a bitwise name, but the
! operator might have an arithmetic or bitwise name.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-05 12:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.64.0802262143570.18200@ask.diku.dk>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0802262143570.18200-QfmoRoYWmW9knbxzx/v8hQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-05  6:38   ` [PATCH 6/9] drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwl-4965.c: Correct use of ! and & Ingo Molnar
2008-03-05  6:49     ` Christopher Li
2008-03-05  7:02       ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]         ` <20080305070201.GA32434-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-05  7:09           ` Harvey Harrison
2008-03-05  8:19             ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]               ` <20080305081904.GA17789-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-05 12:13                 ` Derek M Jones [this message]
2008-03-05  8:55           ` Julia Lawall
2008-03-05 12:20             ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]               ` <20080305122010.GA999-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-05 12:30                 ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]                   ` <e2e108260803050430o317d3e0dyed50e86cc4569746-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-05 12:36                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-05 12:35                 ` Julia Lawall

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