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From: Derek M Jones <derek@knosof.co.uk>
To: Alexey Zaytsev <alexey.zaytsev@gmail.com>
Cc: David Given <dg@cowlark.com>,
	linux-sparse@vger.kernel.org, Josh Triplett <josh@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/15 v2] Unhardcode byte size being 8 bits.
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:10:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4949A306.2060200@knosof.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f19298770812171633w43707eb0h8c0a0be262549ddf@mail.gmail.com>



Alexey ,

>>> unsigned long test1(void *p)
>>> {
>>>         return sizeof(*p);
>>> }
>> TBH, I don't think that's legal --- I know of several compilers that
>> will refuse to compile it, and gcc -pedantic produces a warning, which
>> means it probably falls into the 'undefined behaviour' bucket of the
>> standard. I can't find anything that specifically talks about sizeof
>> void, but 6.3.2.2.1 prohibits doing *anything* with the result of an
>> expression of type void, which sort of applies here.
>>
>> Of course, I'm thinking about this from the sparse-as-a-compiler point
>> of view, where you're probably more interested in replicating gcc's
>> behaviour.
> 
> This seems to be legal, and quite popular in the Linux kernel. GNU C defines
> sizeof(void) being 1.And as it has the -Wpointer-arith flag, this kind of stuff
> may be caught without sparse if deemed undesirable.

It is a constraint violation.

"The sizeof operator shall not be applied to an expression that has 
function type or an incomplete type"

sentence 1118: c0x.coding-guidelines.com/6.5.3.4.html

void is an incomplete type that cannot be completed
sentence 524: c0x.coding-guidelines.com/6.2.5.html

In pre-C90 days, prior to the availability of void, char * was
often used in a context where void * is now used.  Treating void
as being equivalent to char in some kind of compatibility mode
makes sense.  It looks like the gcc maintainers have over stepped
the mark.

I have reported the bug in gcc.  Track Bug: 38563
at: gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla

-- 
Derek M. Jones                         tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667
Knowledge Software Ltd                 mailto:derek@knosof.co.uk
Source code analysis                   http://www.knosof.co.uk

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-12-18  1:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-17 20:05 [PATCH 2/15 v2] Unhardcode byte size being 8 bits Alexey Zaytsev
2008-12-17 23:33 ` David Given
2008-12-18  0:33   ` Alexey Zaytsev
2008-12-18  0:58     ` David Given
2008-12-18  1:24       ` Alexey Zaytsev
2008-12-18  1:10     ` Derek M Jones [this message]
2008-12-18  1:52       ` Derek M Jones
2008-12-18  3:11         ` Alexey Zaytsev
2008-12-18 13:05           ` Derek M Jones
2008-12-18 17:07             ` Alexey Zaytsev
2008-12-18 17:12 ` David Given

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