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From: Grant Likely <grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org>
To: David Brownell <david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: dbrownell-Rn4VEauK+AKRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
	<bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	sodaville-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org,
	spi-devel-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	Dirk Brandewie
	<dirk.brandewie-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	eric.y.miao-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] spi/pxa2xx: register driver properly
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 14:36:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101229213642.GA15198@angua.secretlab.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <349566.41372.qm-g47maUHHHF+ORdMXk8NaZPu2YVrzzGjVVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 09:00:36AM -0800, David Brownell wrote:
> 
> 
> > Date: Wednesday, December 29, 2010, 12:11 AM
> > On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 06:47:29PM
> > +0100, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > > use platform_driver_register instead of
> > platform_driver_probe. The
> > > latter only checks available devices at the time of
> > calling. So if a
> > > device gets inserter at a later point in time then the
> > driver will never
> > > play with it.
> 
> 
> I detect an effort to change the classic model for board initialization in Linux:  first set up
> and register all system/platform devices on each
> board then do the same for their drivers.  ("hardware first" ... "software second".
> 
> (Without such a change, there's no need for
>  patches like this (of which I've recently
> seen a few).
> 
> I've not seen discussion about the desirability
> of such a change.

That has never been the Linux device model.  It may be a reasonable
assumption on a large number of boards, but it is definitely not the
model.  In this case, this specific driver now needs to be bound to a
device that is registered in a pci device driver's probe routine.  The
change is completely justified.

Regarding the platform_driver_probe() pattern, I've never liked it
because it short circuits the normal device model behaviour and makes
all drivers that use it a special case.  It does recover a couple of
KB at runtime per driver, which is why I tolerate the existing users,
but doing so is effectively pinching pennies to solve a deficit in the
thousands.  I don't think it is worth it and I will not hesitate to
remove platform_device_probe() from a driver if it is possible that a
device will get registered late.

Instead of doing this per-driver special case thing, I would be far
more interested in a mechanism that allows userspace to trigger
discarding of  __devinit sections for any module at runtime, along
with the associated dropping of .probe() hooks, so that a system could
take advantage of the runtime memory savings on all drivers.

g.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-12-29 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-02 17:47 SPI support for CE4100, v2 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found] ` <1291312057-7933-1-git-send-email-bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-02 17:47   ` [PATCH 1/9] spi/pxa2xx: register driver properly Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]     ` <1291312057-7933-2-git-send-email-bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-29  8:11       ` Grant Likely
2010-12-29 17:00         ` David Brownell
2010-12-29 21:26           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]             ` <20101229212635.GA31347-Hfxr4Dq0UpYb1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-29 21:40               ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                 ` <20101229214054.GB15198-MrY2KI0G/OVr83L8+7iqerDks+cytr/Z@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-30  1:55                   ` David Brownell
     [not found]           ` <349566.41372.qm-g47maUHHHF+ORdMXk8NaZPu2YVrzzGjVVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-29 21:36             ` Grant Likely [this message]
2010-12-02 17:47   ` [PATCH 2/9] spi/pxa2xx: add support for shared IRQ handler Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]     ` <1291312057-7933-3-git-send-email-bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-29  8:11       ` Grant Likely
2010-12-02 17:47   ` [PATCH 3/9] spi/pxa2xx: Use define for SSSR_TFL_MASK instead of plain numbers Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]     ` <1291312057-7933-4-git-send-email-bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-29  8:11       ` Grant Likely
2010-12-02 17:47   ` [PATCH 4/9] arm/pxa2xx: reorgazine SSP and SPI header files Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]     ` <1291312057-7933-5-git-send-email-bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-29  8:11       ` Grant Likely
2010-12-02 17:47   ` [PATCH 5/9] spi/pxa2xx: Add CE4100 support Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]     ` <1291312057-7933-6-git-send-email-bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-29  8:11       ` Grant Likely
2010-12-02 17:47   ` [PATCH 6/9] spi/pxa2xx: Consider CE4100's FIFO depth Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]     ` <1291312057-7933-7-git-send-email-bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-29  8:11       ` Grant Likely
2010-12-02 17:47   ` [PATCH 7/9] spi/pxa2xx: Add chipselect support for Sodaville Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]     ` <1291312057-7933-8-git-send-email-bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-29  8:11       ` Grant Likely
2010-12-02 17:47   ` [PATCH 8/9] spi/pxa2xx: Modify RX-Tresh instead of busy-loop for the remaining RX bytes Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]     ` <1291312057-7933-9-git-send-email-bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-29  8:12       ` Grant Likely
2010-12-02 17:47   ` [PATCH 9/9] spi/pxa2xx: pass of_node to spi device and set a parent device Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]     ` <1291312057-7933-10-git-send-email-bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-29  8:11       ` Grant Likely
2010-12-09 16:43   ` [sodaville] SPI support for CE4100, v2 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]     ` <4D01074A.2020106-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-29  8:10       ` Grant Likely

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