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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Vinod Koul <vinod.koul-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>,
	Viresh Kumar
	<viresh.kumar-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
	Mark Brown
	<broonie-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>,
	spi-devel-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	Andy Shevchenko
	<andriy.shevchenko-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] spi: pl022: use generic DMA slave configuration if possible
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 16:22:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130208162248.GY17833@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3752726.iyKukyN6sF@wuerfel>

On Thu, Feb 07, 2013 at 10:15:48PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Thursday 07 February 2013 21:19:04 Linus Walleij wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > On Thursday 07 February 2013, Linus Walleij wrote:
> > 
> > >> Actually I once read about a feature where the kernel provides
> > >> a static page full of zeroes or something like this, that would be
> > >> ideal to use in cases like this, then all of this dummy page
> > >> allocation and freeing can be deleted.
> > >
> > > You mean empty_zero_page? That only works if this page is
> > > read-only from the perspective of the DMA controller, but
> > > then it would be a good fit, yes.
> > 
> > That's actually how it's used.
> > 
> > SPI is symmetric, and in the DMA case we're not poking
> > data into the buffers from the CPU so the controller need
> > something - anything - to stream to the block.
> > 
> > If we can use that page we'll even save a few remaps.
> 
> I'm slightly worried about the caching effects though. The
> idea of the empty-zero page is that all user processes get
> it when they read a page before they write to it, so the
> data in it can essentially always be cache-hot.
> 
> If we do DMA from that page to a device what would be the
> overhead of flushing the (clean) cache lines?

If it's DMA _to_ a device, then we will only ever clean the lines prior to
a transfer, never invalidate them.  So that's not really a concern.  (There
better not be any dirty cache lines associated with the empty zero page
either.)

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-08 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1359395857-1235-1-git-send-email-arnd@arndb.de>
     [not found] ` <1359395857-1235-1-git-send-email-arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-28 17:57   ` [PATCH 2/5] spi: pl022: use generic DMA slave configuration if possible Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]     ` <1359395857-1235-3-git-send-email-arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-05 14:22       ` Grant Likely
2013-02-07 18:27       ` Linus Walleij
2013-01-28 17:57   ` [PATCH 3/5] serial: pl011: " Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]     ` <1359395857-1235-4-git-send-email-arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-05 14:22       ` Grant Likely
2013-01-28 21:58   ` [PATCH v2 0/5] dmaengine: convert dw_dmac/spear13xx to generic binding Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]     ` <1359410300-26113-1-git-send-email-arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-28 21:58       ` [PATCH 2/5] spi: pl022: use generic DMA slave configuration if possible Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]         ` <1359410300-26113-3-git-send-email-arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-29  2:41           ` Mark Brown
2013-01-29  7:49           ` Andy Shevchenko
2013-01-29 13:13             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]               ` <201301291313.03511.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-07 18:29                 ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]                   ` <CACRpkdZNpCJwp-uaH6feTcaPesNouwpHt-hO-M9v52G=Ux+Hqw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-07 19:42                     ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                       ` <201302071942.54642.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-07 20:19                         ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]                           ` <CACRpkdbunPGtR4p_kY4q8WEb8iwkEbdo_icDyrLZwKrCe0wXqw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-07 21:15                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-08 16:22                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2013-02-08 16:28                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-08 22:10                                   ` Linus Walleij
2013-02-08 16:20                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-28 21:58       ` [PATCH 3/5] serial: pl011: " Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]         ` <1359410300-26113-4-git-send-email-arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-30  4:38           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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