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From: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	linux-spi <linux-spi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@free-electrons.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] spi: Force the registration of the spidev devices
Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 23:17:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140505041721.GD11606@lukather> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdUWa1_n94sDvv=L_goc+SOnD9CAKi5DzifrY7GWYRdQmw@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi Geert

On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 01:28:26AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> Hi Maxime,
> 
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:36 AM, Maxime Ripard
> <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com> wrote:
> > But it actually doesn't work in a case where you can't really predict
> > what is on the other side of the bus. Either because, on the board
> > you're using the pins are exposed and it's pretty much up to the user
> > to know what to put on it. That could be handled by DT overlays
> > though.
> >
> > What never works is where the device on the other side is so generic
> > that you really can't tell what it does. Think of a microcontroller
> > that would behave as a SPI slave. It's behaviour and what it does is
> > pretty much dependant of what we flashed on it, and suddenly the
> > compatible string is not the proper reprensentation anymore.
> 
> So you will (hopefully soon) use overlay DT to change the DTS to match what's
> connected?

Not really, because you can't declare a spidev device in the DT.

> And then you want spidev to bind to it. Would it help if DT offered a feature
> to add a compatible entry to a driver at runtime, cfr.
> /sys/bus/pci/drivers/.../new_id on PCI?

The thing is, in the core SPI bus, devices are only instiated (in the
DT case), by parsing the DT. So, to bind a device to a new driver, it
has to exist in the first place, and it won't exist, because there
won't be any node in the DT for this device. But since DT is
unsuitable for such a device, you go back to where we were initially.

Maxime

-- 
Maxime Ripard, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
http://free-electrons.com

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-05  4:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-28 17:22 [PATCH] spi: Force the registration of the spidev devices Maxime Ripard
     [not found] ` <1398705774-12361-1-git-send-email-maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 18:37   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]     ` <20140429183758.GH15125-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 21:31       ` Martin Sperl
     [not found]         ` <24BF05CB-35FF-42E8-BE5C-A5E4E3D0C52A-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-30 18:14           ` Maxime Ripard
2014-04-30 20:00             ` Martin Sperl
     [not found]               ` <DA3907EB-0C1B-42FB-B288-9E33F6E24E3E-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-30 22:19                 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-01  1:21                 ` Mark Brown
2014-04-30 18:06       ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-01  1:18         ` Mark Brown
     [not found]           ` <20140501011811.GF3245-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-01 22:36             ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-01 23:28               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]                 ` <CAMuHMdUWa1_n94sDvv=L_goc+SOnD9CAKi5DzifrY7GWYRdQmw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-02 16:55                   ` Mark Brown
2014-05-05  4:17                 ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2014-05-05  7:10                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]                     ` <CAMuHMdWZ1rvC+tkT=CbfMwZtppyJ_KpzT7JrLd5k5P2oxzA+8g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-05 13:57                       ` Alexandre Belloni
     [not found]                         ` <20140505135701.GA21940-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-05 14:22                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-05 19:16                     ` Mark Brown
2014-05-02 17:40               ` Mark Brown
2014-05-05  4:21                 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-05 19:17                   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                     ` <20140505191723.GK22111-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-08  2:22                       ` Maxime Ripard
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2015-05-12 20:33 Maxime Ripard
     [not found] ` <1431462804-30467-1-git-send-email-maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 11:26   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]     ` <20150513112604.GI3066-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 12:35       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-05-13 12:51       ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 14:36         ` Mark Brown
     [not found]           ` <20150513143610.GT2761-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 15:31             ` Michal Suchanek
     [not found]               ` <CAOMqctTd7xG6mwX9AojTH4uaGDY06xOgDFUP437VDiE0rp0sXA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 17:43                 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 19:09           ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 19:10         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]           ` <CAMuHMdWJ730G_a6=vQgs4gV837am5KKd7zEhU2FaHw2cpv=aRA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 19:41             ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 15:37       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]         ` <20150513153740.GC11677-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 15:52           ` Michal Suchanek
2015-05-13 17:13           ` Mark Brown
     [not found]             ` <20150513171300.GD2761-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 17:20               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                 ` <20150513172028.GA18303-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 17:39                   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                     ` <20150513173922.GF2761-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 18:16                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-13 18:32                         ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                           ` <20150513183211.GK2761-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 18:36                             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                               ` <20150513183653.GA879-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 18:51                                 ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                   ` <20150513185149.GL2761-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 19:17                                     ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 17:50           ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 18:12             ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 18:17             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]               ` <20150513181736.GC16811-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 19:23                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-13 19:26                 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 22:33                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-15  8:09                     ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found]                     ` <20150513223331.GA26748-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 14:34                       ` Mark Brown
2015-07-15  6:27                       ` Lucas De Marchi

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