From: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman
<gregkh-hQyY1W1yCW8ekmWlsbkhG0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Hans de Goede <hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
linux-spi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Martin Sperl <kernel-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>,
Michal Suchanek
<hramrach-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] spi: Force the registration of the spidev devices
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 21:26:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150513192640.GF4004@lukather> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150513181736.GC16811-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
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On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 11:17:36AM -0700, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 07:50:34PM +0200, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > Hi Greg,
> >
> > On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 08:37:40AM -0700, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:26:04PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> > > > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:33:24PM +0200, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > While this is nicer than the DT solution because of its accurate hardware
> > > > > representation, it's still not perfect because you might not have access to the
> > > > > DT, or you might be driving a completely generic device (such as a
> > > > > microcontroller) that might be used for something else in a different
> > > > > context/board.
> > > >
> > > > Greg, you're copied on this because this seems to be a generic problem
> > > > that should perhaps be solved at a driver model level - having a way to
> > > > bind userspace access to devices that we don't otherwise have a driver
> > > > for. The subsystem could specify the UIO driver to use when no other
> > > > driver is available.
> > >
> > > That doesn't really work. I've been talking to the ACPI people about
> > > this, and the problem is "don't otherwise have a driver for" is an
> > > impossible thing to prove, as you never know when a driver is going to
> > > be loaded from userspace.
> > >
> > > You can easily bind drivers to devices today from userspace, why not
> > > just use the built-in functionality you have today if you "know" that
> > > there is no driver for this hardware.
> >
> > What we're really after here is that we want to have an spidev
> > instance when we don't even have a device.
>
> That's crazy, just create a device, things do not work without one.
Our use case is this one: we want to export spidev files so that "dev
boards" with a header that allows to plug virtually anything on it
(Raspberry Pi, Cubieboards, Xplained, and all the likes) without
having to change the kernel and / or device tree.
That would mean that if we plug something to that port, no device will
be created because the DT itself won't have that device declared in
the first place.
This patch is actually doing this: creating a new device for all the
chipselects that are not in use that will be bound to the spidev
driver.
Maxime
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Maxime Ripard, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
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2015-05-12 20:33 [PATCH] spi: Force the registration of the spidev devices Maxime Ripard
[not found] ` <1431462804-30467-1-git-send-email-maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 9:34 ` [PATCH] spi: Add option to bind spidev to all chipselects Michal Suchanek
[not found] ` <20150513093441.80359.qmail-ve7rdfgbAvJ3WEpVTuSGmqVXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 10:16 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 10:40 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-05-13 11:05 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 11:26 ` [PATCH] spi: Force the registration of the spidev devices Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20150513112604.GI3066-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 12:35 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-05-13 12:51 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 14:36 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20150513143610.GT2761-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 15:31 ` Michal Suchanek
[not found] ` <CAOMqctTd7xG6mwX9AojTH4uaGDY06xOgDFUP437VDiE0rp0sXA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 17:43 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 19:09 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 19:10 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
[not found] ` <CAMuHMdWJ730G_a6=vQgs4gV837am5KKd7zEhU2FaHw2cpv=aRA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 19:41 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 15:37 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20150513153740.GC11677-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 15:52 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-05-13 17:13 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20150513171300.GD2761-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 17:20 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20150513172028.GA18303-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 17:39 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20150513173922.GF2761-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 18:16 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-13 18:32 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20150513183211.GK2761-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 18:36 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20150513183653.GA879-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 18:51 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20150513185149.GL2761-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 19:17 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 17:50 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 18:12 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 18:17 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20150513181736.GC16811-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 19:23 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-13 19:26 ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2015-05-13 22:33 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20150513223331.GA26748-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 14:34 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-15 6:27 ` Lucas De Marchi
2015-05-15 8:09 ` Maxime Ripard
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2014-04-28 17:22 Maxime Ripard
[not found] ` <1398705774-12361-1-git-send-email-maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 18:37 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20140429183758.GH15125-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 21:31 ` Martin Sperl
[not found] ` <24BF05CB-35FF-42E8-BE5C-A5E4E3D0C52A-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-30 18:14 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-04-30 20:00 ` Martin Sperl
[not found] ` <DA3907EB-0C1B-42FB-B288-9E33F6E24E3E-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-30 22:19 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-01 1:21 ` Mark Brown
2014-04-30 18:06 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-01 1:18 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20140501011811.GF3245-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-01 22:36 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-01 23:28 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
[not found] ` <CAMuHMdUWa1_n94sDvv=L_goc+SOnD9CAKi5DzifrY7GWYRdQmw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-02 16:55 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-05 4:17 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-05 7:10 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
[not found] ` <CAMuHMdWZ1rvC+tkT=CbfMwZtppyJ_KpzT7JrLd5k5P2oxzA+8g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-05 13:57 ` Alexandre Belloni
[not found] ` <20140505135701.GA21940-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-05 14:22 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-05 19:16 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-02 17:40 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-05 4:21 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-05 19:17 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20140505191723.GK22111-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-08 2:22 ` Maxime Ripard
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