From: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>
To: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
radu_nicolae.pirea@upb.ro, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 0/6] Driver for at91 usart in spi mode
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 13:17:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180912111757.GC2760@piout.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180912105407.GR4185@dell>
On 12/09/2018 11:54:07+0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:41 AM Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 12 Sep 2018, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> > > > On 11/09/2018 23:54:40+0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > > > > > http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/Atmel-6438-32-bit-ARM926-Embedded-Microprocessor-SAM9G45_Datasheet.pdf
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > USART doc starting p572, registers p621.
> > > > >
> > > > > After looking at the datasheet, I don't see any reason why one of the
> > > > > two drivers can't be selected using different compatible strings.
> > > >
> > > > Because there is only one IP and we don't use the device tree to selecet
> > > > linux specific drivers.
> > >
> > > We do it all the time. There are loads of MFDs (def: same IP, with
> > > different functions) which have separate compatibles for their various
> > > functions. If you wish this IP to operate as an SPI controller, it
> > > should have an SPI compatible, if you wish it to operate as a U(S)ART,
> > > then it should have a UART compatible. It's what we do for most of
> > > the other MFDs in the kernel.
> >
> > There is a big difference: MFD functions are(more or less) independent
> > functions, which can be used at the same time. It makes perfect sense for a
> > single IP block that has both SPI and UART interfaces, that can be used at
> > the same time.
> >
> > In this case, there is a single piece of hardware that can perform
> > different functions, but not at the same time. Performing a different
> > function means configuring the hardware for that function, hence using a
> > different driver (from a different subsystem).
>
> Yes, I can see that PoV.
>
> But ... we can't have it both ways. *Either* it's a true MFD, in
> which case it can/should have 2 separate compatible strings which can
> be specified directly from the DT. *Or* it's not an MFD. In the
> latter case, which I think we're all agreeing on (else we'd have 2
> compatible strings), MFD is not the place to handle this (my original
> point).
>
If that is what bothers you, then let's move it out of mfd.
> So ... this is a USART device which can do SPI, right?
>
> My current thinking is that; as this is a USART device first &
> foremost, the USART should be probed in the first instance regardless,
> then if SPI mode is specified it (the USART driver) registers the SPI
> platform driver (as MFD does currently) and exits gracefully, allowing
> the SPI driver to take over.
>
> Spanner in the works: is it physically possible to change the mode at
> run-time? :s
Yes it is possible but on Linux that will not happen without probing
the drivers again. I think DT overlays will be the only possible use
case because on SPI, you'd still have to provide nodes for the connected
SPI devices.
--
Alexandre Belloni, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-12 11:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-04 11:13 [PATCH v12 0/6] Driver for at91 usart in spi mode Radu Pirea
2018-09-04 11:13 ` [PATCH v12 1/6] MAINTAINERS: add at91 usart mfd driver Radu Pirea
2018-09-04 11:13 ` [PATCH v12 2/6] dt-bindings: add binding for atmel-usart in SPI mode Radu Pirea
2018-09-04 11:13 ` [PATCH v12 3/6] mfd: at91-usart: added mfd driver for usart Radu Pirea
2018-09-04 11:13 ` [PATCH v12 4/6] MAINTAINERS: add at91 usart spi driver Radu Pirea
2018-09-04 11:13 ` [PATCH v12 5/6] spi: at91-usart: add driver for at91-usart as spi Radu Pirea
2018-09-04 11:13 ` [PATCH v12 6/6] tty/serial: atmel: change the driver to work under at91-usart mfd Radu Pirea
2018-09-10 9:48 ` [PATCH v12 0/6] Driver for at91 usart in spi mode Lee Jones
2018-09-10 9:51 ` Nicolas Ferre
2018-09-10 13:43 ` Lee Jones
2018-09-11 9:33 ` Lee Jones
2018-09-11 9:39 ` Alexandre Belloni
2018-09-11 14:59 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-11 15:36 ` Alexandre Belloni
2018-09-11 16:23 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-11 18:39 ` Lee Jones
2018-09-11 18:58 ` Alexandre Belloni
2018-09-11 19:04 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-11 22:44 ` Lee Jones
2018-09-11 22:54 ` Lee Jones
2018-09-12 7:33 ` Alexandre Belloni
2018-09-12 8:41 ` Lee Jones
2018-09-12 9:43 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-12 10:54 ` Lee Jones
2018-09-12 11:17 ` Alexandre Belloni [this message]
2018-09-12 11:43 ` Lee Jones
2018-09-12 12:14 ` Alexandre Belloni
2018-09-12 13:12 ` Lee Jones
2018-09-12 19:36 ` Radu Pirea
2018-10-09 9:04 ` Lee Jones
2018-09-11 18:59 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-11 22:43 ` Lee Jones
2018-09-12 7:30 ` Alexandre Belloni
2018-09-12 8:36 ` Lee Jones
2018-09-11 11:18 ` [GIT PULL v2] Immutable branch between MFD, SPI and TTY due for the v4.20 merge window Lee Jones
2018-09-11 14:04 ` Greg KH
2018-09-11 14:07 ` Lee Jones
2018-09-11 14:12 ` Greg KH
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