* [PATCH 0/4] spi: A better solution for cros_ec_spi reliability
@ 2019-05-10 22:34 Douglas Anderson
2019-05-10 22:34 ` [PATCH 1/4] spi: For controllers that need realtime always use the pump thread Douglas Anderson
2019-05-10 22:34 ` [PATCH 2/4] spi: Allow SPI devices to specify that they are timing sensitive Douglas Anderson
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From: Douglas Anderson @ 2019-05-10 22:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mark Brown, Benson Leung, Enric Balletbo i Serra
Cc: linux-rockchip, drinkcat, Guenter Roeck, briannorris, mka,
Douglas Anderson, linux-kernel, linux-spi
This series is a much better solution for getting the Chrome OS EC to
talk reliably and replaces commit 37a186225a0c ("platform/chrome:
cros_ec_spi: Transfer messages at high priority").
Note that the cros_ec bits can't land until the SPI bits are
somewhere. If the SPI bits look OK to land it might be convenient if
they could be placed somewhere with a stable git hash?
Special thanks to Guenter Roeck for pointing out the "realtime"
feature of the SPI framework so I didn't re-invent the wheel. I have
no idea how I missed it. :-/
Douglas Anderson (4):
spi: For controllers that need realtime always use the pump thread
spi: Allow SPI devices to specify that they are timing sensitive
platform/chrome: cros_ec_spi: Set ourselves as timing sensitive
Revert "platform/chrome: cros_ec_spi: Transfer messages at high
priority"
drivers/platform/chrome/cros_ec_spi.c | 81 +++------------------------
drivers/spi/spi.c | 41 +++++++++++---
include/linux/spi/spi.h | 3 +
3 files changed, 43 insertions(+), 82 deletions(-)
--
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* [PATCH 1/4] spi: For controllers that need realtime always use the pump thread
2019-05-10 22:34 [PATCH 0/4] spi: A better solution for cros_ec_spi reliability Douglas Anderson
@ 2019-05-10 22:34 ` Douglas Anderson
2019-05-11 0:24 ` Guenter Roeck
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From: Douglas Anderson @ 2019-05-10 22:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mark Brown, Benson Leung, Enric Balletbo i Serra
Cc: linux-rockchip, drinkcat, Guenter Roeck, briannorris, mka,
Douglas Anderson, linux-kernel, linux-spi
If a controller specifies that it needs high priority for sending
messages we should always schedule our transfers on the thread. If we
don't do this we'll do the transfer in the caller's context which
might not be very high priority.
Signed-off-by: Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
---
drivers/spi/spi.c | 7 +++++--
1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/drivers/spi/spi.c b/drivers/spi/spi.c
index 8eb7460dd744..0597f7086de3 100644
--- a/drivers/spi/spi.c
+++ b/drivers/spi/spi.c
@@ -1230,8 +1230,11 @@ static void __spi_pump_messages(struct spi_controller *ctlr, bool in_kthread)
return;
}
- /* If another context is idling the device then defer */
- if (ctlr->idling) {
+ /*
+ * If another context is idling the device then defer.
+ * If we are high priority then the thread should do the transfer.
+ */
+ if (ctlr->idling || (ctlr->rt && !in_kthread)) {
kthread_queue_work(&ctlr->kworker, &ctlr->pump_messages);
spin_unlock_irqrestore(&ctlr->queue_lock, flags);
return;
--
2.21.0.1020.gf2820cf01a-goog
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* [PATCH 2/4] spi: Allow SPI devices to specify that they are timing sensitive
2019-05-10 22:34 [PATCH 0/4] spi: A better solution for cros_ec_spi reliability Douglas Anderson
2019-05-10 22:34 ` [PATCH 1/4] spi: For controllers that need realtime always use the pump thread Douglas Anderson
@ 2019-05-10 22:34 ` Douglas Anderson
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From: Douglas Anderson @ 2019-05-10 22:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mark Brown, Benson Leung, Enric Balletbo i Serra
Cc: linux-rockchip, drinkcat, Guenter Roeck, briannorris, mka,
Douglas Anderson, linux-kernel, linux-spi
If a device on the SPI bus is very sensitive to timing then it may be
necessary (for correctness) not to get interrupted during a transfer.
One example is the EC (Embedded Controller) on Chromebooks. The
Chrome OS EC will drop a transfer if more than ~8ms passes between the
chip select being asserted and the transfer finishing.
The SPI framework already has code to handle the case where transfers
are timing senstive. It can set its message pumping thread to
realtime to to minimize interruptions during the transfer. However,
at the moment, this mode can only be requested by a SPI controller.
Let's allow the drivers for SPI devices to also request this mode.
NOTE: at the moment if a given device on a bus says that it's timing
sensitive then we'll pump all messages on that bus at high priority.
It is possible we might want to relax this in the future but it seems
like it should be fine for now.
Signed-off-by: Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
---
drivers/spi/spi.c | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
include/linux/spi/spi.h | 3 +++
2 files changed, 31 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
diff --git a/drivers/spi/spi.c b/drivers/spi/spi.c
index 0597f7086de3..d117ab3adafa 100644
--- a/drivers/spi/spi.c
+++ b/drivers/spi/spi.c
@@ -1367,10 +1367,30 @@ static void spi_pump_messages(struct kthread_work *work)
__spi_pump_messages(ctlr, true);
}
-static int spi_init_queue(struct spi_controller *ctlr)
+/**
+ * spi_boost_thread_priority - set the controller to pump at realtime priority
+ * @ctlr: controller to boost priority of
+ *
+ * This can be called because the controller requested realtime priority
+ * (by setting the ->rt value before calling spi_register_controller()) or
+ * because a device on the bus said that its transfers were timing senstive.
+ *
+ * NOTE: at the moment if any device on a bus says it is timing sensitive then
+ * all the devices on this bus will do transfers at realtime priority. If
+ * this eventually becomes a problem we may see if we can find a way to boost
+ * the priority only temporarily during relevant transfers.
+ */
+static void spi_boost_thread_priority(struct spi_controller *ctlr)
{
struct sched_param param = { .sched_priority = MAX_RT_PRIO - 1 };
+ dev_info(&ctlr->dev,
+ "will run message pump with realtime priority\n");
+ sched_setscheduler(ctlr->kworker_task, SCHED_FIFO, ¶m);
+}
+
+static int spi_init_queue(struct spi_controller *ctlr)
+{
ctlr->running = false;
ctlr->busy = false;
@@ -1390,11 +1410,8 @@ static int spi_init_queue(struct spi_controller *ctlr)
* request and the scheduling of the message pump thread. Without this
* setting the message pump thread will remain at default priority.
*/
- if (ctlr->rt) {
- dev_info(&ctlr->dev,
- "will run message pump with realtime priority\n");
- sched_setscheduler(ctlr->kworker_task, SCHED_FIFO, ¶m);
- }
+ if (ctlr->rt)
+ spi_boost_thread_priority(ctlr);
return 0;
}
@@ -2985,6 +3002,11 @@ int spi_setup(struct spi_device *spi)
spi_set_cs(spi, false);
+ if (spi->timing_sensitive && !spi->controller->rt) {
+ spi->controller->rt = true;
+ spi_boost_thread_priority(spi->controller);
+ }
+
dev_dbg(&spi->dev, "setup mode %d, %s%s%s%s%u bits/w, %u Hz max --> %d\n",
(int) (spi->mode & (SPI_CPOL | SPI_CPHA)),
(spi->mode & SPI_CS_HIGH) ? "cs_high, " : "",
diff --git a/include/linux/spi/spi.h b/include/linux/spi/spi.h
index 053abd22ad31..ef6bdd4d25f2 100644
--- a/include/linux/spi/spi.h
+++ b/include/linux/spi/spi.h
@@ -109,6 +109,8 @@ void spi_statistics_add_transfer_stats(struct spi_statistics *stats,
* This may be changed by the device's driver, or left at the
* default (0) indicating protocol words are eight bit bytes.
* The spi_transfer.bits_per_word can override this for each transfer.
+ * @timing_sensitive: Transfers for this device are senstive to timing
+ * so we should do our transfer at high priority.
* @irq: Negative, or the number passed to request_irq() to receive
* interrupts from this device.
* @controller_state: Controller's runtime state
@@ -143,6 +145,7 @@ struct spi_device {
u32 max_speed_hz;
u8 chip_select;
u8 bits_per_word;
+ bool timing_sensitive;
u32 mode;
#define SPI_CPHA 0x01 /* clock phase */
#define SPI_CPOL 0x02 /* clock polarity */
--
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* Re: [PATCH 1/4] spi: For controllers that need realtime always use the pump thread
2019-05-10 22:34 ` [PATCH 1/4] spi: For controllers that need realtime always use the pump thread Douglas Anderson
@ 2019-05-11 0:24 ` Guenter Roeck
[not found] ` <20190510223437.84368-2-dianders-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
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From: Guenter Roeck @ 2019-05-11 0:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Douglas Anderson
Cc: Mark Brown, Benson Leung, Enric Balletbo i Serra,
open list:ARM/Rockchip SoC..., Nicolas Boichat, Guenter Roeck,
Brian Norris, Matthias Kaehlcke, linux-kernel, linux-spi
From: Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Date: Fri, May 10, 2019 at 3:35 PM
To: Mark Brown, Benson Leung, Enric Balletbo i Serra
Cc: <linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org>, <drinkcat@chromium.org>,
Guenter Roeck, <briannorris@chromium.org>, <mka@chromium.org>, Douglas
Anderson, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-spi@vger.kernel.org>
> If a controller specifies that it needs high priority for sending
> messages we should always schedule our transfers on the thread. If we
> don't do this we'll do the transfer in the caller's context which
> might not be very high priority.
>
> Signed-off-by: Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Reviewed-by: Guenter Roeck <groeck@chromium.org>
> ---
>
> drivers/spi/spi.c | 7 +++++--
> 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/spi/spi.c b/drivers/spi/spi.c
> index 8eb7460dd744..0597f7086de3 100644
> --- a/drivers/spi/spi.c
> +++ b/drivers/spi/spi.c
> @@ -1230,8 +1230,11 @@ static void __spi_pump_messages(struct spi_controller *ctlr, bool in_kthread)
> return;
> }
>
> - /* If another context is idling the device then defer */
> - if (ctlr->idling) {
> + /*
> + * If another context is idling the device then defer.
> + * If we are high priority then the thread should do the transfer.
> + */
> + if (ctlr->idling || (ctlr->rt && !in_kthread)) {
> kthread_queue_work(&ctlr->kworker, &ctlr->pump_messages);
> spin_unlock_irqrestore(&ctlr->queue_lock, flags);
> return;
> --
> 2.21.0.1020.gf2820cf01a-goog
>
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* Re: [PATCH 2/4] spi: Allow SPI devices to specify that they are timing sensitive
[not found] ` <20190510223437.84368-3-dianders-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
@ 2019-05-11 0:31 ` Guenter Roeck
2019-05-12 7:42 ` Mark Brown
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From: Guenter Roeck @ 2019-05-11 0:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Douglas Anderson
Cc: Nicolas Boichat, Brian Norris, linux-kernel,
linux-spi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, open list:ARM/Rockchip SoC...,
Mark Brown, Enric Balletbo i Serra, Guenter Roeck, Benson Leung,
Matthias Kaehlcke
From: Douglas Anderson <dianders-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
Date: Fri, May 10, 2019 at 3:35 PM
To: Mark Brown, Benson Leung, Enric Balletbo i Serra
Cc: <linux-rockchip-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>, <drinkcat-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
Guenter Roeck, <briannorris-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>, <mka-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>, Douglas
Anderson, <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>, <linux-spi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
> If a device on the SPI bus is very sensitive to timing then it may be
> necessary (for correctness) not to get interrupted during a transfer.
> One example is the EC (Embedded Controller) on Chromebooks. The
> Chrome OS EC will drop a transfer if more than ~8ms passes between the
> chip select being asserted and the transfer finishing.
>
> The SPI framework already has code to handle the case where transfers
> are timing senstive. It can set its message pumping thread to
> realtime to to minimize interruptions during the transfer. However,
> at the moment, this mode can only be requested by a SPI controller.
> Let's allow the drivers for SPI devices to also request this mode.
>
> NOTE: at the moment if a given device on a bus says that it's timing
> sensitive then we'll pump all messages on that bus at high priority.
> It is possible we might want to relax this in the future but it seems
> like it should be fine for now.
>
> Signed-off-by: Douglas Anderson <dianders-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
Nitpick: I would use 'rt' instead of 'timing_sensitive' as name for the
new variable.
Otherwise:
Reviewed-by: Guenter Roeck <groeck-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
> ---
>
> drivers/spi/spi.c | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
> include/linux/spi/spi.h | 3 +++
> 2 files changed, 31 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/spi/spi.c b/drivers/spi/spi.c
> index 0597f7086de3..d117ab3adafa 100644
> --- a/drivers/spi/spi.c
> +++ b/drivers/spi/spi.c
> @@ -1367,10 +1367,30 @@ static void spi_pump_messages(struct kthread_work *work)
> __spi_pump_messages(ctlr, true);
> }
>
> -static int spi_init_queue(struct spi_controller *ctlr)
> +/**
> + * spi_boost_thread_priority - set the controller to pump at realtime priority
> + * @ctlr: controller to boost priority of
> + *
> + * This can be called because the controller requested realtime priority
> + * (by setting the ->rt value before calling spi_register_controller()) or
> + * because a device on the bus said that its transfers were timing senstive.
> + *
> + * NOTE: at the moment if any device on a bus says it is timing sensitive then
> + * all the devices on this bus will do transfers at realtime priority. If
> + * this eventually becomes a problem we may see if we can find a way to boost
> + * the priority only temporarily during relevant transfers.
> + */
> +static void spi_boost_thread_priority(struct spi_controller *ctlr)
> {
> struct sched_param param = { .sched_priority = MAX_RT_PRIO - 1 };
>
> + dev_info(&ctlr->dev,
> + "will run message pump with realtime priority\n");
> + sched_setscheduler(ctlr->kworker_task, SCHED_FIFO, ¶m);
> +}
> +
> +static int spi_init_queue(struct spi_controller *ctlr)
> +{
> ctlr->running = false;
> ctlr->busy = false;
>
> @@ -1390,11 +1410,8 @@ static int spi_init_queue(struct spi_controller *ctlr)
> * request and the scheduling of the message pump thread. Without this
> * setting the message pump thread will remain at default priority.
> */
> - if (ctlr->rt) {
> - dev_info(&ctlr->dev,
> - "will run message pump with realtime priority\n");
> - sched_setscheduler(ctlr->kworker_task, SCHED_FIFO, ¶m);
> - }
> + if (ctlr->rt)
> + spi_boost_thread_priority(ctlr);
>
> return 0;
> }
> @@ -2985,6 +3002,11 @@ int spi_setup(struct spi_device *spi)
>
> spi_set_cs(spi, false);
>
> + if (spi->timing_sensitive && !spi->controller->rt) {
> + spi->controller->rt = true;
> + spi_boost_thread_priority(spi->controller);
> + }
> +
> dev_dbg(&spi->dev, "setup mode %d, %s%s%s%s%u bits/w, %u Hz max --> %d\n",
> (int) (spi->mode & (SPI_CPOL | SPI_CPHA)),
> (spi->mode & SPI_CS_HIGH) ? "cs_high, " : "",
> diff --git a/include/linux/spi/spi.h b/include/linux/spi/spi.h
> index 053abd22ad31..ef6bdd4d25f2 100644
> --- a/include/linux/spi/spi.h
> +++ b/include/linux/spi/spi.h
> @@ -109,6 +109,8 @@ void spi_statistics_add_transfer_stats(struct spi_statistics *stats,
> * This may be changed by the device's driver, or left at the
> * default (0) indicating protocol words are eight bit bytes.
> * The spi_transfer.bits_per_word can override this for each transfer.
> + * @timing_sensitive: Transfers for this device are senstive to timing
> + * so we should do our transfer at high priority.
> * @irq: Negative, or the number passed to request_irq() to receive
> * interrupts from this device.
> * @controller_state: Controller's runtime state
> @@ -143,6 +145,7 @@ struct spi_device {
> u32 max_speed_hz;
> u8 chip_select;
> u8 bits_per_word;
> + bool timing_sensitive;
> u32 mode;
> #define SPI_CPHA 0x01 /* clock phase */
> #define SPI_CPOL 0x02 /* clock polarity */
> --
> 2.21.0.1020.gf2820cf01a-goog
>
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* Re: [PATCH 1/4] spi: For controllers that need realtime always use the pump thread
[not found] ` <20190510223437.84368-2-dianders-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
@ 2019-05-12 7:33 ` Mark Brown
2019-05-13 20:24 ` Doug Anderson
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From: Mark Brown @ 2019-05-12 7:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Douglas Anderson
Cc: drinkcat-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw,
briannorris-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA,
linux-spi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA,
linux-rockchip-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r,
mka-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw, Enric Balletbo i Serra, Guenter Roeck,
Benson Leung
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On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 03:34:34PM -0700, Douglas Anderson wrote:
> If a controller specifies that it needs high priority for sending
> messages we should always schedule our transfers on the thread. If we
> don't do this we'll do the transfer in the caller's context which
> might not be very high priority.
If performance is important you probably also want to avoid the context
thrashing - executing in the calling context is generally a substantial
performance boost. I can see this causing problems further down the
line when someone else turns up with a different requirement, perhaps in
an application where the caller does actually have a raised priority
themselves and just wanted to make sure that the thread wasn't lower
than they are. I guess it'd be nice if we could check what priority the
calling thread has and make a decision based on that but there don't
seem to be any facilities for doing that which I can see right now.
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* Re: [PATCH 2/4] spi: Allow SPI devices to specify that they are timing sensitive
[not found] ` <20190510223437.84368-3-dianders-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2019-05-11 0:31 ` Guenter Roeck
@ 2019-05-12 7:42 ` Mark Brown
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From: Mark Brown @ 2019-05-12 7:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Douglas Anderson
Cc: drinkcat-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw,
briannorris-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA,
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linux-rockchip-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r,
mka-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw, Enric Balletbo i Serra, Guenter Roeck,
Benson Leung
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On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 03:34:35PM -0700, Douglas Anderson wrote:
> + * @timing_sensitive: Transfers for this device are senstive to timing
> + * so we should do our transfer at high priority.
Not sure this is the best name. Every device is timing sensitive to
some extent and it's a bit wooly about what it's trying to accomplish,
it's specifically about the timing involved in ensuring that the entire
message goes out as quickly as possible AIUI. I think if anything I'd
just have the caller specifying a RT priority for the thread, but that's
awkward as we might want to switch over to deadline at some point. How
about just calling the parameter rt the same as it is when the
controller does the same configuration?
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* Re: [PATCH 1/4] spi: For controllers that need realtime always use the pump thread
2019-05-12 7:33 ` Mark Brown
@ 2019-05-13 20:24 ` Doug Anderson
2019-05-14 9:30 ` Mark Brown
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Doug Anderson @ 2019-05-13 20:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mark Brown
Cc: Benson Leung, Enric Balletbo i Serra,
open list:ARM/Rockchip SoC..., Nicolas Boichat, Guenter Roeck,
Brian Norris, Matthias Kaehlcke, LKML, linux-spi
Hi,
On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 10:05 AM Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 03:34:34PM -0700, Douglas Anderson wrote:
> > If a controller specifies that it needs high priority for sending
> > messages we should always schedule our transfers on the thread. If we
> > don't do this we'll do the transfer in the caller's context which
> > might not be very high priority.
>
> If performance is important you probably also want to avoid the context
> thrashing - executing in the calling context is generally a substantial
> performance boost. I can see this causing problems further down the
> line when someone else turns up with a different requirement, perhaps in
> an application where the caller does actually have a raised priority
> themselves and just wanted to make sure that the thread wasn't lower
> than they are. I guess it'd be nice if we could check what priority the
> calling thread has and make a decision based on that but there don't
> seem to be any facilities for doing that which I can see right now.
In my case performance is 2nd place to a transfer not getting
interrupted once started (so we don't break the 8ms rule of the EC).
My solution in v2 of my series is to take out the forcing in the case
that the controller wanted "rt" priority and then to add "force" to
the parameter name. If someone wants rt priority for the thread but
doesn't want to force all transfers to the thread we can later add a
different parameter for that?
-Doug
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* Re: [PATCH 1/4] spi: For controllers that need realtime always use the pump thread
2019-05-13 20:24 ` Doug Anderson
@ 2019-05-14 9:30 ` Mark Brown
2019-05-14 14:42 ` Doug Anderson
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Mark Brown @ 2019-05-14 9:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Doug Anderson
Cc: Benson Leung, Enric Balletbo i Serra,
open list:ARM/Rockchip SoC..., Nicolas Boichat, Guenter Roeck,
Brian Norris, Matthias Kaehlcke, LKML, linux-spi
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On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 01:24:57PM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
> On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 10:05 AM Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> wrote:
> > If performance is important you probably also want to avoid the context
> > thrashing - executing in the calling context is generally a substantial
> > performance boost. I can see this causing problems further down the
> > line when someone else turns up with a different requirement, perhaps in
> > an application where the caller does actually have a raised priority
> > themselves and just wanted to make sure that the thread wasn't lower
> > than they are. I guess it'd be nice if we could check what priority the
> > calling thread has and make a decision based on that but there don't
> > seem to be any facilities for doing that which I can see right now.
> In my case performance is 2nd place to a transfer not getting
> interrupted once started (so we don't break the 8ms rule of the EC).
That's great but other users do care very much about performance and are
also interested in both priority control and avoiding context thrashing.
> My solution in v2 of my series is to take out the forcing in the case
> that the controller wanted "rt" priority and then to add "force" to
> the parameter name. If someone wants rt priority for the thread but
> doesn't want to force all transfers to the thread we can later add a
> different parameter for that?
I think that's going to be the common case for this. Forcing context
thrashing is really not something anyone else is asking for.
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* Re: [PATCH 1/4] spi: For controllers that need realtime always use the pump thread
2019-05-14 9:30 ` Mark Brown
@ 2019-05-14 14:42 ` Doug Anderson
2019-05-14 15:06 ` Mark Brown
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From: Doug Anderson @ 2019-05-14 14:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mark Brown
Cc: Benson Leung, Enric Balletbo i Serra,
open list:ARM/Rockchip SoC..., Nicolas Boichat, Guenter Roeck,
Brian Norris, Matthias Kaehlcke, LKML, linux-spi
Hi,
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 2:30 AM Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 01:24:57PM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
> > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 10:05 AM Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > In my case performance is 2nd place to a transfer not getting
> > interrupted once started (so we don't break the 8ms rule of the EC).
>
> That's great but other users do care very much about performance and are
> also interested in both priority control and avoiding context thrashing.
>
> > My solution in v2 of my series is to take out the forcing in the case
> > that the controller wanted "rt" priority and then to add "force" to
> > the parameter name. If someone wants rt priority for the thread but
> > doesn't want to force all transfers to the thread we can later add a
> > different parameter for that?
>
> I think that's going to be the common case for this. Forcing context
> thrashing is really not something anyone else is asking for.
OK, that's fair. Even if nobody else is asking for it, the solution
I've coded up for v2 still allows cros_ec to use the SPI core's thread
in a pretty clean way and saves a bunch of code in cros_ec. It
shouldn't penalize any other SPI users.
...but I guess you're saying that you don't want to guarantee that the
SPI core will happen to have this thread sitting around in the future
so you'd rather add the extra complexity to cros_ec so the core can
evolve more freely?
-Doug
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* Re: [PATCH 1/4] spi: For controllers that need realtime always use the pump thread
2019-05-14 14:42 ` Doug Anderson
@ 2019-05-14 15:06 ` Mark Brown
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Mark Brown @ 2019-05-14 15:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Doug Anderson
Cc: Benson Leung, Enric Balletbo i Serra,
open list:ARM/Rockchip SoC..., Nicolas Boichat, Guenter Roeck,
Brian Norris, Matthias Kaehlcke, LKML, linux-spi
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On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 07:42:38AM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
> ...but I guess you're saying that you don't want to guarantee that the
> SPI core will happen to have this thread sitting around in the future
> so you'd rather add the extra complexity to cros_ec so the core can
> evolve more freely?
We need something to support spi_async() but what you're asking for is
fairly specific implementation details about how things are currently
structured, and we do need to be able to continue to make improvements
for users who are interested in performance. Ensuring that the calling
context is also less likely to be preempted is going to make it much
less likely that any other work is going to cause some timing change
that creates problems for you.
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