From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
Lino Sanfilippo <LinoSanfilippo@gmx.de>,
rjui@broadcom.com, sbranden@broadcom.com,
bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com, nsaenz@kernel.org,
linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, p.rosenberger@kunbus.com,
linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] spi: bcm2835: do not unregister controller in shutdown handler
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 14:13:01 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211004171301.GA3544071@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f481f7cc-6734-59b3-6432-5c2049cd87ea@gmail.com>
On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 09:55:32AM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> On 10/4/21 9:51 AM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 09:36:37AM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> >
> >> No please don't, I should have arguably justified the reasons why
> >> better, but the main reason is that one of the platforms on which this
> >> driver is used has received extensive power management analysis and
> >> changes, and shutting down every bit of hardware, including something as
> >> small as a SPI controller, and its clock (and its PLL) helped meet
> >> stringent power targets.
> >
> > Huh? for device shutdown? What would this matter if the next step is
> > reboot or power off?
>
> Power off, the device is put into a low power state (equivalent to ACPI
> S5) and then a remote control key press, or a GPIO could wake-up the
> device again. While it is in that mode, it consumes less than 0.5W(AC).
> Imagine your stick/cast/broom behind your TV falling in that category.
So really this is more of a very deep sleep that cannot be recovered
from than what other platforms would call a shutdown - eg the
powerdomain of the device under driver control will not loose
power.
I'm kind of surprised a scheme like this didn't involve a FW call
after Linux is done with the CPUs to quiet all the HW and let it
sleep, I've built things that way before at least.
> I am fairly sure that no driver write knows about the being bound in
> time aspect.
Well, it is a logical consequence. The system is shutting down, no
driver should be designed to deadlock the shutdown forever.
I suppose this is why I've occasionally seen Linux just hang at a
black screen and no power off when told to shutdown :)
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-04 17:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-09-28 19:56 [PATCH] spi: bcm2835: do not unregister controller in shutdown handler Lino Sanfilippo
2021-09-28 20:08 ` Mark Brown
2021-09-29 8:38 ` Aw: " Lino Sanfilippo
2021-10-01 17:54 ` Mark Brown
2021-10-03 15:25 ` Lino Sanfilippo
2021-10-04 12:49 ` Mark Brown
2021-10-04 13:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-04 14:12 ` Mark Brown
2021-10-04 15:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-04 16:31 ` Mark Brown
2021-10-04 16:36 ` Florian Fainelli
2021-10-04 16:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-04 16:55 ` Florian Fainelli
2021-10-04 17:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2021-10-04 17:27 ` Mark Brown
2021-10-04 17:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-04 17:44 ` Florian Fainelli
2021-10-04 17:56 ` Mark Brown
2021-10-04 17:05 ` Mark Brown
2021-10-04 16:52 ` Mark Brown
2021-10-04 16:57 ` Florian Fainelli
2021-10-04 18:30 ` Lino Sanfilippo
2021-10-04 18:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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