From: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Vignesh Raghavendra <vigneshr@ti.com>,
Tudor Ambarus <Tudor.Ambarus@microchip.com>,
Pratyush Yadav <p.yadav@ti.com>, Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc>,
linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, Michal Simek <monstr@monstr.eu>,
Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
linux-spi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/3] spi: dt-bindings: Describe stacked/parallel memories modes
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 16:02:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211216160226.4fac5ccc@xps13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YbjVSNAC8M5Y1nHp@robh.at.kernel.org>
Hi Rob,
robh@kernel.org wrote on Tue, 14 Dec 2021 11:32:56 -0600:
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 09:10:38PM +0100, Miquel Raynal wrote:
> > Describe two new memories modes:
> > - A stacked mode when the bus is common but the address space extended
> > with an additinals wires.
> > - A parallel mode with parallel busses accessing parallel flashes where
> > the data is spread.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
> > ---
> > .../bindings/spi/spi-peripheral-props.yaml | 29 +++++++++++++++++++
> > 1 file changed, 29 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/spi/spi-peripheral-props.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/spi/spi-peripheral-props.yaml
> > index 5dd209206e88..4194fee8f556 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/spi/spi-peripheral-props.yaml
> > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/spi/spi-peripheral-props.yaml
> > @@ -82,6 +82,35 @@ properties:
> > description:
> > Delay, in microseconds, after a write transfer.
> >
> > + stacked-memories:
> > + $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint64-matrix
>
> matrix or...
>
> > + description: Several SPI memories can be wired in stacked mode.
> > + This basically means that either a device features several chip
> > + selects, or that different devices must be seen as a single
> > + bigger chip. This basically doubles (or more) the total address
> > + space with only a single additional wire, while still needing
> > + to repeat the commands when crossing a chip boundary. The size of
> > + each chip should be provided as members of the array.
>
> array?
>
> Sounds like an array from the description as there is only 1 element,
> the size.
Well, what I expected to have was something like:
dt: <property> = <uint64>, <uint64>;
It seemed like the only possible way (that the tooling would validate)
was to use:
bindings: $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint64-matrix
So I assumed I was defining a matrix of AxB elements, where A is the
number of devices I want to "stack" and B is the number of values
needed to describe its size, so 1.
I realized that the following example, which I was expecting to work,
was failing:
bindings: $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint64-array
dt: <property> = <uint64>, <uint64>;
Indeed, as you propose, this actually works but describes two values
(tied somehow) into a single element, which is not exactly what I
wanted:
bindings: $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint64-array
dt: <property> = <uint64 uint64>;
But more disturbing, all the following constructions worked, when using
32-bits values instead:
bindings: $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32-array
dt: <property> = <uint32 uint32>;
bindings: $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32-array
dt: <property> = <uint32>, <uint32>;
bindings: $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32-matrix
dt: <property> = <uint32 uint32>;
bindings: $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32-matrix
dt: <property> = <uint32>, <uint32>;
I am fine waiting a bit if you think there is a need for some tooling
update on your side. Otherwise, do you really think that this solution
is the one we should really use?
bindings: $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint64-array
dt: <property> = <uint64 uint64>;
Because from my point of view it does not match what we usually do for
other "types" of elements, such as:
dt: <property> = <phandle1 index1>, <phandle2 index2>;
or
dt: <property> = <small-val1>, <small-val2>;
>
> > + minItems: 2
> > + maxItems: 2
> > + items:
> > + maxItems: 1
>
> This says you can only have 2 64-bit entries. Probably not what you
> want. This looks like a case for a maxItems 'should be enough for now'
> type of value.
Yes, that is what I wanted to describe.
In my recent contributions you always preferred to bound things as much
as possible, even though later it might become necessary to loosen the
constraint. Right now I see the use of these properties for 2 devices,
but in theory there is no limit.
Of course if we switch to the array representation I suppose I should
stick to:
+ minItems: 2
+ maxItems: 2
>
> > +
> > + parallel-memories:
> > + $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint64-matrix
> > + description: Several SPI memories can be wired in parallel mode.
> > + The devices are physically on a different buses but will always
> > + act synchronously as each data word is spread across the
> > + different memories (eg. even bits are stored in one memory, odd
> > + bits in the other). This basically doubles the address space and
> > + the throughput while greatly complexifying the wiring because as
> > + many busses as devices must be wired. The size of each chip should
> > + be provided as members of the array.
> > + minItems: 2
> > + maxItems: 2
> > + items:
> > + maxItems: 1
> > +
> > # The controller specific properties go here.
> > allOf:
> > - $ref: cdns,qspi-nor-peripheral-props.yaml#
> > --
> > 2.27.0
> >
> >
Thanks,
Miquèl
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-16 15:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-10 20:10 [PATCH v4 0/3] Stacked/parallel memories bindings Miquel Raynal
2021-12-10 20:10 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] dt-bindings: mtd: spi-nor: Allow two CS per device Miquel Raynal
2021-12-10 20:10 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] spi: dt-bindings: Describe stacked/parallel memories modes Miquel Raynal
2021-12-14 17:32 ` Rob Herring
2021-12-16 15:02 ` Miquel Raynal [this message]
2022-01-10 8:31 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-21 15:54 ` Rob Herring
2022-01-26 11:18 ` Miquel Raynal
2021-12-14 19:44 ` Pratyush Yadav
2021-12-16 16:25 ` Miquel Raynal
2021-12-17 12:39 ` Pratyush Yadav
2021-12-17 12:58 ` Miquel Raynal
2021-12-10 20:10 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] spi: dt-bindings: Add an example with two stacked flashes Miquel Raynal
2021-12-14 17:37 ` Rob Herring
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