From: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] driver core: platform: Rename platform_get_irq_optional() to platform_get_irq_silent()
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 08:57:18 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220120075718.5qtrpc543kkykaow@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YehdsUPiOTwgZywq@smile.fi.intel.com>
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On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 08:51:29PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 04:45:39PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 03:04:38PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 08:43:58PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > > > > It'd certainly be good to name anything that doesn't correspond to one
> > > > > of the existing semantics for the API (!) something different rather
> > > > > than adding yet another potentially overloaded meaning.
> > > >
> > > > It seems we're (at least) three who agree about this. Here is a patch
> > > > fixing the name.
> > >
> > > And similar number of people are on the other side.
> >
> > If someone already opposed to the renaming (and not only the name) I
> > must have missed that.
> >
> > So you think it's a good idea to keep the name
> > platform_get_irq_optional() despite the "not found" value returned by it
> > isn't usable as if it were a normal irq number?
>
> I meant that on the other side people who are in favour of Sergey's patch.
> Since that I commented already that I opposed the renaming being a standalone
> change.
>
> Do you agree that we have several issues with platform_get_irq*() APIs?
>
> 1. The unfortunate naming
unfortunate naming for the currently implemented semantic, yes.
> 2. The vIRQ0 handling: a) WARN() followed by b) returned value 0
I'm happy with the vIRQ0 handling. Today platform_get_irq() and it's
silent variant returns either a valid and usuable irq number or a
negative error value. That's totally fine.
> 3. The specific cookie for "IRQ not found, while no error happened" case
Not sure what you mean here. I have no problem that a situation I can
cope with is called an error for the query function. I just do error
handling and continue happily. So the part "while no error happened" is
irrelevant to me.
Additionally I see the problems:
4. The semantic as implemented in Sergey's patch isn't better than the
current one. platform_get_irq*() is still considerably different from
(clk|gpiod)_get* because the not-found value for the _optional variant
isn't usuable for the irq case. For clk and gpio I get rid of a whole if
branch, for irq I only change the if-condition. (And if that change is
considered good or bad seems to be subjective.)
For the idea to add a warning to platform_get_irq_optional for all but
-ENXIO (and -EPROBE_DEFER), I see the problem:
5. platform_get_irq*() issuing an error message is only correct most of
the time and given proper error handling in the caller (which might be
able to handle not only -ENXIO but maybe also -EINVAL[1]) the error message
is irritating. Today platform_get_irq() emits an error message for all
but -EPROBE_DEFER. As soon as we find a driver that handles -EINVAL we
need a function platform_get_irq_variant1 to be silent for -EINVAL,
-EPROBE_DEFER and -ENXIO (or platform_get_irq_variant2 that is only
silent for -EINVAL and -EPROBE_DEFER?)
IMHO a query function should always be silent and let the caller do the
error handling. And if it's only because
mydev: IRQ index 0 not found
is worse than
mydev: neither TX irq not a muxed RX/TX irq found
. Also "index 0" is irritating for devices that are expected to have
only a single irq (i.e. the majority of all devices).
Yes, I admit, we can safe some code by pushing the error message in a
query function. But that doesn't only have advantages.
Best regards
Uwe
[1] Looking through the source I wonder: What are the errors that can happen
in platform_get_irq*()? (calling everything but a valid irq number
an error) Looking at many callers, they only seem to expect "not
found" and some "probe defer" (even platform_get_irq() interprets
everything but -EPROBE_DEFER as "IRQ index %u not found\n".)
IMHO before we should consider to introduce a platform_get_irq*()
variant with improved semantics, some cleanup in the internals of
the irq lookup are necessary.
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[not found] <20220110195449.12448-1-s.shtylyov@omp.ru>
2022-01-10 19:54 ` [PATCH 1/2] platform: make platform_get_irq_optional() optional Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-10 20:10 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-10 21:07 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-10 21:44 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-10 21:18 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-01-12 8:33 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-12 8:50 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-12 10:27 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-12 12:27 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-12 13:38 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-01-12 13:51 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-12 13:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-12 14:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-01-12 15:05 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-12 15:13 ` Hans de Goede
2022-01-12 15:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-01-12 16:21 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-12 21:31 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-12 21:45 ` Mark Brown
2022-01-13 11:08 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-13 14:45 ` Mark Brown
2022-01-13 19:43 ` [PATCH] driver core: platform: Rename platform_get_irq_optional() to platform_get_irq_silent() Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-13 20:17 ` Mark Brown
2022-01-13 20:57 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-13 22:43 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-14 9:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-15 15:21 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-15 21:06 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-14 11:34 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-13 20:31 ` Guenter Roeck
2022-01-13 21:42 ` Florian Fainelli
2022-01-13 23:06 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-14 17:55 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-15 13:55 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-19 18:36 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-19 19:44 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 18:40 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-14 6:57 ` Peter Korsgaard
2022-01-14 13:04 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-15 15:45 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-19 18:51 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-19 19:47 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 20:55 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-20 7:57 ` Uwe Kleine-König [this message]
2022-01-24 15:01 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-24 21:02 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-25 8:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-25 12:56 ` Matthias Schiffer
2022-01-25 14:01 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-14 19:45 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-14 20:29 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-15 13:08 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 18:52 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-13 20:35 ` [PATCH 1/2] platform: make platform_get_irq_optional() optional Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-14 9:25 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-14 9:39 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-14 19:14 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-14 20:22 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-15 20:22 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-17 8:41 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-17 9:24 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-17 10:35 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-17 11:49 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-17 13:08 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-17 17:06 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-18 8:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-18 9:09 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-18 9:37 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-18 12:08 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-18 12:49 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-18 14:29 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-19 16:12 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 18:29 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-20 11:27 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-16 18:15 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-17 8:47 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-18 20:21 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-18 22:26 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-19 15:34 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 18:58 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-19 19:49 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-14 18:46 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-15 18:36 ` [PATCH 1/2] platform: make platform_get_irq_optional() optional (summary) Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-16 14:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-18 9:18 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-18 9:32 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-19 10:56 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 11:33 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-19 11:42 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 19:06 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-17 11:57 ` [PATCH 1/2] platform: make platform_get_irq_optional() optional Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 15:02 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-19 15:50 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-10 19:54 ` [PATCH 2/2] platform: make platform_get_irq_byname_optional() optional Sergey Shtylyov
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