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From: Cyril Chemparathy <cyril-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 01/10] ARM: davinci: move private EDMA API to arm/common
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 10:37:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51112749.10603@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130205123828.GB17852-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>

On 02/05/2013 07:38 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 09:47:38PM +0000, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> On Monday 04 February 2013, Linus Walleij wrote:
>>> So I think the above concerns are moot. The callback we can
>>> set on cookies is entirely optional, and it's even implemented by
>>> each DMA engine, and some may not even support it but require
>>> polling, and then it won't even be implemented by the driver.
>>
>> Just to ensure that everybody is talking about the same thing here:
>> Is it just the callback that is optional, or also the interrupt
>> coming from the hardware?
>
> If everyone implements stuff correctly, both.  The callback most certainly
> is optional as things stand.  The interrupt - that depends on the DMA
> engine.
>
> Some DMA engines you can't avoid it because you need to reprogram the
> hardware with the next+1 transfer upon completion of an existing transfer.
> Others may allow you to chain transfers in hardware.  That's all up to
> how the DMA engine driver is implemented and how the hardware behaves.
>
> Now, there's another problem here: that is, people abuse the API.  People
> don't pass DMA_CTRL_ACK | DMA_PREP_INTERRUPT into their operations by
> default.  People like typing '0'.
>
> The intention of the "DMA_PREP_INTERRUPT" is significant here: it means
> "ask the hardware to send an interrupt upon completion of this transfer".
>
> Because soo many people like to type '0' instead in their DMA engine
> clients, it means that this flag is utterly useless today - you have to
> ignore it.  So there's _no_ way for client drivers to actually tell the
> a DMA engine driver which _doesn't_ need to signal interrupts at the end
> of every transfer not to do so.
>
> So yes, the DMA engine API supports it.  Whether the _implementations_
> themselves do is very much hit and miss (and in reality is much more
> miss than hit.)
>

Don't these assume that the driver can determine the need for an 
interrupt upfront at prep/submit time?  AFAICT, this assumption doesn't 
hold true with NAPI.

Thanks
-- Cyril.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-02-05 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-01 18:22 [PATCH v7 00/10] DMA Engine support for AM33XX Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 03/10] ARM: edma: add AM33XX support to the private EDMA API Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 04/10] dmaengine: edma: enable build for AM33XX Matt Porter
     [not found] ` <1359742975-10421-1-git-send-email-mporter-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-01 18:22   ` [PATCH v7 01/10] ARM: davinci: move private EDMA API to arm/common Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:41     ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-02 12:49       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-02 14:44         ` Matt Porter
     [not found]     ` <5022f635a527470dbd0be932063e9cd2@DFLE72.ent.ti.com>
2013-02-01 18:49       ` Matt Porter
     [not found]         ` <2077c13e12314dc3adc8e5b653855da0@DFLE72.ent.ti.com>
2013-02-01 18:59           ` Matt Porter
2013-02-02  0:01             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-02 12:45             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-02 17:27               ` Sergei Shtylyov
     [not found]             ` <e9be6668da8b4372a04687847daa1d8c@DFLE72.ent.ti.com>
2013-02-02 18:07               ` Matt Porter
2013-02-02 18:16                 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-02 19:48                   ` Matt Porter
2013-02-02 21:02                     ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-02 19:06                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
     [not found]                 ` <3245316d7aa94b2e823f98b69497547d@DLEE74.ent.ti.com>
     [not found]                   ` <3245316d7aa94b2e823f98b69497547d-0VoBT8GTp4aIQmiDNMet8wC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-02 19:55                     ` Matt Porter
2013-02-02 20:18                       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-01 19:52         ` Sergei Shtylyov
     [not found]           ` <510C1D0E.6030401-Igf4POYTYCDQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-01 18:58             ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-01 20:49               ` Sergei Shtylyov
     [not found]                 ` <510C2A47.1090607-Igf4POYTYCDQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-01 20:56                   ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-01 21:30                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-02  0:07                       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-02  0:44                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                           ` <20130202004455.GX2637-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-02  2:09                             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-02 10:18                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-02 12:17                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                   ` <20130202121738.GZ2637-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-02 17:02                                     ` Sergei Shtylyov
     [not found]                                 ` <20130202101851.GY2637-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-02 16:27                                   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-02 16:45                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                       ` <20130202164522.GC2637-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-02 17:17                                         ` Sergei Shtylyov
     [not found]                         ` <510C58DF.3010103-Igf4POYTYCDQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-04 14:27                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-02  0:13                       ` Sergei Shtylyov
     [not found]                       ` <20130201213003.GW2637-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-04 15:41                         ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-04 15:45                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-04 17:36                           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-04 16:47                             ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-04 17:10                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-04 17:54                               ` Sergei Shtylyov
     [not found]                                 ` <510FF5C9.3030600-Igf4POYTYCDQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-04 17:02                                   ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-04 18:22                                     ` Sergei Shtylyov
     [not found]                                     ` <20130204170216.GC4269-S8G//mZuvNWo5Im9Ml3/Zg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-04 19:22                                       ` Cyril Chemparathy
2013-02-04 20:29                                         ` Linus Walleij
2013-02-04 20:33                                           ` Mark Brown
2013-02-04 21:11                                             ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]                                               ` <CACRpkdbPyZt8=pLhz-5qcaSSAk6VBn61dPTNp6teU9HksBwN2w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-04 21:47                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-05 12:38                                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                                     ` <20130205123828.GB17852-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-05 15:37                                                       ` Cyril Chemparathy [this message]
2013-02-04 21:54                                                 ` Cyril Chemparathy
2013-02-05 12:41                                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                                     ` <20130205124120.GC17852-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-05 15:42                                                       ` Cyril Chemparathy
2013-02-05 15:30                                                   ` Linus Walleij
2013-02-05 17:14                                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                                       ` <20130205171451.GE17852-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-05 18:33                                                         ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]                                           ` <CACRpkdZihnp3_Df==QRWxQupgi7W_YXZxc-MxkusVH6J+Vx56A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-04 22:30                                             ` Cyril Chemparathy
     [not found]                                               ` <5110369B.9060901-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-05 16:21                                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-02-05 16:47                                                   ` Mark Brown
2013-02-05 17:06                                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-05 17:41                                                       ` Mark Brown
2013-02-05 18:29                                                     ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]                                                       ` <CACRpkdbeoMO1rjPiWDAuVL0uYwMGF+9-vCxqoMiMd1uAgZm=RQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-05 19:45                                                         ` Cyril Chemparathy
2013-02-05 18:28                           ` Tony Lindgren
     [not found]                             ` <20130205182848.GJ25185-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-05 22:26                               ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                                 ` <201302052226.30754.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-06  7:45                                   ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-01 23:10                     ` Sergei Shtylyov
     [not found]     ` <1359742975-10421-2-git-send-email-mporter-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-09 16:05       ` Sekhar Nori
2013-02-09 20:08         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-03-04 22:05         ` Matt Porter
     [not found]         ` <e92425fefcc04bb4ab739ec8d4e82672@DLEE74.ent.ti.com>
     [not found]           ` <e92425fefcc04bb4ab739ec8d4e82672-0VoBT8GTp4aIQmiDNMet8wC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-04 22:12             ` Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22   ` [PATCH v7 02/10] ARM: edma: remove unused transfer controller handlers Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22   ` [PATCH v7 05/10] dmaengine: edma: Add TI EDMA device tree binding Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:26     ` Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22   ` [PATCH v7 06/10] ARM: dts: add AM33XX EDMA support Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22   ` [PATCH v7 07/10] dmaengine: add dma_request_slave_channel_compat() Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:28     ` Matt Porter
2013-02-12 16:38     ` Vinod Koul
2013-02-01 18:22   ` [PATCH v7 08/10] spi: omap2-mcspi: convert to dma_request_slave_channel_compat() Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22   ` [PATCH v7 09/10] spi: omap2-mcspi: add generic DMA request support to the DT binding Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22   ` [PATCH v7 10/10] ARM: dts: add AM33XX SPI DMA support Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:32 ` [PATCH v7 00/10] DMA Engine support for AM33XX Matt Porter

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