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From: Greg Ungerer <gerg-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>
To: "Geert Uytterhoeven"
	<geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>,
	"Uwe Kleine-König"
	<u.kleine-koenig-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-spi <linux-spi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Vladimir Zapolskiy
	<vladimir_zapolskiy-nmGgyN9QBj3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <kernel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Fabio Estevam <fabio.estevam-3arQi8VN3Tc@public.gmane.org>,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] spi: imx: fix use of native chip-selects with devicetree
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 10:50:44 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51a48190-9edb-093e-a6fc-a7cb8c1e0ce0@linux-m68k.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdW+KcPCAweneu4pTg1Pb-uAvYGz1+Z=oEDYoOt4gWrjhA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

Hi Geert, Uwe,

On 22/03/17 06:15, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 8:23 PM, Uwe Kleine-König
> <u.kleine-koenig-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:22:27PM +1000, Greg Ungerer wrote:
>>> On 21/03/17 22:11, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 09:53:52PM +1000, Greg Ungerer wrote:
>>>>> On 21/03/17 18:05, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:05:20PM +1000, Greg Ungerer wrote:
>>>>>>> On 20/03/17 23:22, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote:
>>>>>>>> For that type of bindings locally I have a hackish spi-imx driver change,
>>>>>>>> which supports this option, but I'm unsure if it is universal enough.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you mean supporting no cs-gpios tag?
>>>>>>> That would be nice, but it would seem not many users of this are
>>>>>>> using native chip selects.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The reason for this is that the native chip selects are less flexible
>>>>>> than gpios because you cannot control when they deassert. IIRC they do
>>>>>> it too much for some chips. So the only reason to stick to them is that
>>>>>> on some SoCs not all pins have a GPIO function. Not sure if transfer
>>>>>> speed is another reason, but I would expect that the gain isn't that
>>>>>> big.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the particular SPI device I am using, a Silicon Labs 32260,
>>>>> it actually wants the assertion and de-assertion of the chip-select
>>>>> between each byte. So it is the only way it can work for me.
>>>>
>>>> That should be doable with gpio-cs, too. You just need the right flags
>>>> in your spi transfer IIRC.
>>>
>>> Do you know which flag(s)  do that?
>>
>> Looking at the source it's not about flags, but you have to split your
>> transfer into several messages.
> 
> ... and set spi_transfer.cs_change.

Yep, that looks like the one. Though it would appear not all
spi drivers support it. The spi-imx driver for one doesn't look
at it at all.


>> AFAICT that's how the spi stuff is
>> supposed to work. That is, at the start of a message CS is asserted and
>> (only) at it's end CS is deasserted. So the imx core with native chip
>> select actually misbehaves by toggling CS between each word.
> 
> Indeed.

If you look around the kernel source for cs_change there is
a number of devices that use it. A bunch od ADC/DACs in
particular (including in backlight support). 

So I don't know that I would characterize the iMX one as
misbehaving so much as only natively supporting the model
where chip select is asserted/deasserted per burst. It is
strait forward to implement the GPIO method instead of the
native chip select with the iMX pin multiplexing.

Regards
Greg


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-03-22  0:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-17  5:03 [PATCH 0/2] spi: imx: native chip selects and devicetree Greg Ungerer
2017-03-17  5:03 ` [PATCH 1/2] spi: imx: set correct chip_select in platform setup Greg Ungerer
     [not found]   ` <1489726983-17706-2-git-send-email-gerg-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-20  7:38     ` Shawn Guo
2017-03-20 11:52       ` Greg Ungerer
     [not found] ` <1489726983-17706-1-git-send-email-gerg-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-17  5:03   ` [PATCH 2/2] spi: imx: fix use of native chip-selects with devicetree Greg Ungerer
2017-03-20  7:39     ` Shawn Guo
     [not found]     ` <1489726983-17706-3-git-send-email-gerg-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-20 13:22       ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2017-03-21  2:05         ` Greg Ungerer
     [not found]           ` <4a8449d9-cc38-d642-0853-246f46ee7059-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-21  8:05             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2017-03-21 11:53               ` Greg Ungerer
     [not found]                 ` <942cfc4b-445b-ca51-1823-2391cea62abf-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-21 12:11                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]                     ` <20170321121133.jcmhhbszj2d42h3w-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-21 13:22                       ` Greg Ungerer
     [not found]                         ` <20678cef-f667-9915-aa00-8877ad152a8c-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-21 19:23                           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2017-03-21 20:15                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]                               ` <CAMuHMdW+KcPCAweneu4pTg1Pb-uAvYGz1+Z=oEDYoOt4gWrjhA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-22  0:50                                 ` Greg Ungerer [this message]
2017-03-22  7:09                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-09-04 12:47       ` Applied "spi: imx: fix use of native chip-selects with devicetree" to the spi tree Mark Brown
2017-10-10 20:38       ` [2/2] spi: imx: fix use of native chip-selects with devicetree Trent Piepho
2017-10-12  6:26         ` Greg Ungerer
     [not found]           ` <209bb901-875e-8007-06f8-3ae9698a0e41-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-12 20:41             ` Trent Piepho
2017-03-20  7:35   ` [PATCH 0/2] spi: imx: native chip selects and devicetree Shawn Guo

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