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From: "Noralf Trønnes" <noralf-L59+Z2yzLopAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
To: Martin Sperl <kernel-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-rpi-kernel
	<linux-rpi-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-spi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] SPI: BCM2835: clock divider can be a multiple of 2
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 15:25:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <550C2DE6.7000201@tronnes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6EBE48E2-80E7-454C-A84C-231D45DC64E0-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>


Den 20.03.2015 08:04, skrev Martin Sperl:
>> On 20.03.2015, at 06:06, Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 03/19/2015 03:01 AM, kernel-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org wrote:
>>> From: Martin Sperl <kernel-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
>>>
>>> The official documentation is wrong in this respect.
>>> Has been tested empirically for dividers 2-1024
>> Do you have a link to a confirmation of this from the RPi Foundation or
>> Broadcom, even a forum post or something? How does the RPI Foundation's
>> downstream kernel restrict the divider?
> Unfortunately there are no official errata by the foundation.
>
> Here the argument by a foundation official (Gordon Hollingworth)
> why they do not (want to) provide updates:
> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=447724#p447724
>
> That is in a slightly different context, but still it also applies to
> errata in general.
>
> The foundation spi-bcm2708 driver also relies on the power-of 2 rule
> following to the letter the documentation they provide.
>
> For some more infos of experience please look here:
> https://github.com/notro/spi-bcm2708/wiki
> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=43442
> http://elinux.org/BCM2835_datasheet_errata#p156
>
> Notro and I have been running an out of tree driver for a long time
> and that never showed any issues with this multiple of 2.
>
> Some of these kernels/drivers have been shared with lots of people
> for the use with TFT displays or CAN controllers.
>
> I have measured this empirically for every divider between 2 to 1024
> by doing some transfers, and measuring them with a SALEAE logic analyzer.
>
> See here: for the analysis:
> https://github.com/msperl/spi-bcm2835/issues/8
>
> You can also fetch the raw data and csv exports here:
> https://github.com/msperl/spi-bcm2835/blob/patch_the_upstream/images/
>
> Note that the descriptions of how to do polled, interrupt driven and
> DMA driven SPI transfers (page 158) is also not completely accurate.
> It seems to show some "procedures", but these are not optimized and
> some are inconsistent: e.g: this limitation of 16/12 byte transfers
> while the register documentation says 16 words not bytes - which means
> 64 bytes can enter the FIFO buffer (which is also the limit when
> the HW signals that it is full via BCM2835_SPI_CS_TXD)
>
> This will be one of the next patches for improvement of the driver.

The out-of-tree github.com/notro/spi-bcm2708.c is used in numerous
installations since may 2013. I just heard of a 50,000 order for a
particular SPI TFT display.
This driver has no restriction on CDIV except for boundary checking:
         cdiv = DIV_ROUND_UP(bus_hz, hz);

Many of these displays also have a touch controller on the same bus.
AFAIK the most common default speeds used with displays are: 
16,24,32,48,64,80,128MHz
Default transmit buffer size is 4k. The touch controller is set to 2MHz.
I haven't heard any reports of this driver being used for reading large 
buffers.

To my knowledge there hasn't been any issues with lifting this CDIV 
restriction.


Regards,
Noralf Trønnes

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-03-20 14:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-19  9:01 [PATCH] SPI: BCM2835: fix all checkpath --strict messages kernel-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw
     [not found] ` <1426755714-28130-1-git-send-email-kernel-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-19  9:01   ` [PATCH V2] SPI: BCM2835: allow arbitrary GPIO to act as SPI-chip_select kernel-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw
     [not found]     ` <1426755714-28130-2-git-send-email-kernel-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20  5:05       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <550BAA89.5090707-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20  9:52           ` Mark Brown
     [not found]             ` <20150320095247.GE2869-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-25  7:10               ` [PATCH V2 - RESEND] " Martin Sperl
     [not found]                 ` <1756D77D-173D-4D6D-B629-59CC8A49714F-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-25 15:16                   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                     ` <20150325151611.GA3572-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-25 16:13                       ` Martin Sperl
     [not found]                         ` <681599F9-2D88-49FF-BD16-4F388D0B2874-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-25 16:54                           ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                             ` <20150325165441.GI3572-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-25 17:59                               ` Martin Sperl
     [not found]                                 ` <767DFCCF-C8A4-44B3-9E85-96011B0FF0FA-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-25 18:50                                   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                     ` <20150325185007.GL3572-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-25 19:43                                       ` Martin Sperl
     [not found]                                         ` <561486F6-3580-4884-8A6A-8477D8C3BDC9-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-25 21:02                                           ` Mark Brown
2015-03-26 10:08                                           ` [PATCH] SPI: bcm2835: move to the transfer_one driver model Martin Sperl
     [not found]                                             ` <30057D30-6A2D-4517-B374-76FF2448E455-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-26 17:35                                               ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                                 ` <20150326173511.GW3572-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-26 17:47                                                   ` Stephen Warren
2015-03-26 19:15                                                   ` Martin Sperl
     [not found]                                                     ` <C176096E-3731-4F47-9DCF-AE83B143EB9D-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-27  1:32                                                       ` Mark Brown
2015-03-28  4:09                                               ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                                 ` <5516296A.2030505-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-28 18:11                                                   ` Martin Sperl
     [not found]                                                     ` <AB966507-3A94-4421-8153-AB4090E309AF-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-29  3:24                                                       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                                         ` <55177076.9000208-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-29 10:19                                                           ` Martin Sperl
     [not found]                                                             ` <74807CAA-A444-413B-9C9B-C3B06D5C18E6-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-29 21:44                                                               ` Martin Sperl
2015-03-31 14:49                                                   ` Martin Sperl
     [not found]                                                     ` <E13569A5-33E5-48ED-B25F-EC7374E144C9-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-01 15:20                                                       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                                         ` <551C0CA2.40406-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-03 10:17                                                           ` Martin Sperl
     [not found]                                                             ` <A1AEABE2-F0D2-481B-BD83-E1AD7861E960-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-06 17:26                                                               ` Mark Brown
2015-03-19  9:01   ` [PATCH] SPI: BCM2835: clock divider can be a multiple of 2 kernel-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw
     [not found]     ` <1426755714-28130-3-git-send-email-kernel-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20  5:06       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <550BAAD8.20206-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20  7:04           ` Martin Sperl
     [not found]             ` <6EBE48E2-80E7-454C-A84C-231D45DC64E0-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20 14:25               ` Noralf Trønnes [this message]
2015-03-23 18:53       ` Mark Brown
2015-03-19  9:01   ` [PATCH] SPI: BCM2835: enable support of 3-wire mode kernel-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw
     [not found]     ` <1426755714-28130-4-git-send-email-kernel-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20  5:12       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <550BAC49.3000105-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20  6:17           ` Martin Sperl
2015-03-23 18:57       ` Mark Brown
2015-03-20  4:58   ` [PATCH] SPI: BCM2835: fix all checkpath --strict messages Stephen Warren
     [not found]     ` <550BA8FE.7030001-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20  6:26       ` Martin Sperl
     [not found]         ` <7727F65E-D8BC-4299-A359-56FA449C3379-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20 13:40           ` Mark Brown
     [not found]             ` <20150320134053.GN2869-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20 14:26               ` [PATCH V2] " Martin Sperl
     [not found]                 ` <78137BE7-37A4-4144-BBCC-CBEDA70DD31A-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20 18:05                   ` Mark Brown
2015-03-20 13:36   ` [PATCH] " Mark Brown

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