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From: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Brian Norris
	<computersforpeace-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Michal Suchanek
	<hramrach-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	MTD Maling List
	<linux-mtd-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-spi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-spi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Martin Sperl <martin-d5rIkyn9cnPYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: RfC: Handle SPI controller limitations like maximum message length
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 23:53:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5650F5D5.2040901@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151120232211.GA64635-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Am 21.11.2015 um 00:22 schrieb Brian Norris:
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 08:05:48PM +0100, Michal Suchanek wrote:
>> On 20 November 2015 at 19:59, Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>> Am 20.11.2015 um 13:35 schrieb Mark Brown:
>>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 11:06:47AM +0100, Heiner Kallweit wrote:
>>>>> If the discussed case is valid a clear hint to all users of spi_sync and
>>>>> friends should be added that the caller can not rely on status code 0
>>>>> only but must check actual_length to verify that the complete message
>>>>> was transferred.
>>>>
>>>> You'll get an error on truncation.  It may be possible to recover.
>>>>
>>> OK, I interpret this as:
>>> Controller drivers shall return 0 only if the complete message was
>>> transferred successfully.
>>> If  a controller driver returns an error it has the option to set
>>> actual_length to what was transferred successfully.
>>>
>>> This means we can't use patch 4 from Michal because it bails out as soon
>>> as the underlying SPI transfer returns an error.
> 
> Right (although you meant patch 7).
> 
>>> Instead something like the spi-nor patch I sent on Oct 6th would be needed:
>>> [PATCH] mtd: spi-nor: handle controller driver limitations in spi_nor_read
> 
> I don't think your patch is good either...
> 
>>> It loops over nor->read and ignores errors as long as at least something
>>> was read.
>>>
>>
>> I don't think ignoring errors in general is good idea.
> 
> ...for this reason, at least.
> 
>> If it's desirable that a partial transfer is reported as error then a
>> particular error value should be defined for this case and drivers
>> that can continue the transfer in a driver-specific way (such as
>> spi-nor) can check for this error and handle it appropriately and pass
>> through any other error.
> 
> Based on Mark's further comments (and my own intuition), I'd rather not
> try to interpret different error codes to mean "truncated but keep
> going" vs. "truncated for other reason, stop now", unless we really have
> to.
> 
> I think if we do what Heiner was proposing from the beginning -- expose
> a reasonable max SPI message length -- then I think we'll cover the bulk
> of what we want. SPI NOR drivers can then try "small enough" transfers,
> and if we see any errors, those are unexpected, and we abort.

Based on what was discussed so far I'll submit a patch series as basis
for further discussion.

Heiner
> 
> Sound OK?
> 
> Brian
> 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-11-21 22:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-18 21:19 RfC: Handle SPI controller limitations like maximum message length Heiner Kallweit
     [not found] ` <564CEB61.2000601-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-18 21:57   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]     ` <20151118215755.GL31303-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-18 22:50       ` Heiner Kallweit
     [not found]         ` <564D0098.4030107-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-19 11:40           ` Mark Brown
     [not found]             ` <20151119114057.GN31303-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-19 15:00               ` Martin Sperl
     [not found]                 ` <F224F5F3-FAD5-47FE-9419-39E53BCBB8C6-d5rIkyn9cnPYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-19 17:15                   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                     ` <20151119171538.GO31303-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-20  0:07                       ` Brian Norris
     [not found]                         ` <20151120000746.GQ64635-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-20 11:06                           ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                             ` <20151120110616.GR31303-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-20 11:16                               ` Martin Sperl
2015-11-20 10:18                       ` Martin Sperl
     [not found]                         ` <9CDADBED-FD18-4635-82A9-5AB14C9ABCAE-d5rIkyn9cnPYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-20 12:05                           ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                             ` <20151120120502.GT31303-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-20 12:56                               ` Martin Sperl
     [not found]                                 ` <08871ECD-52DF-4CBF-AF3D-4C3A442C008A-d5rIkyn9cnPYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-21 13:49                                   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                     ` <20151121134946.GI26072-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-21 14:10                                       ` Heiner Kallweit
     [not found]                                         ` <56507B3B.4080608-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-21 15:57                                           ` Michal Suchanek
     [not found]                                             ` <CAOMqctR=UDEPbgJDY3YvxpbVEEp4t6ajkyv=cVAZp2fLBNBanA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-21 22:59                                               ` [PATCH 0/3] spi: mtd: Handle HW message length restrictions Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-21 23:01                                               ` [PATCH 1/3] spi: core: add max_msg_size to spi_master Heiner Kallweit
     [not found]                                                 ` <5650F7D4.1090209-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-22 13:16                                                   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                                     ` <20151122131626.GN26072-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-22 16:15                                                       ` Heiner Kallweit
     [not found]                                                         ` <5651EA08.5090400-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-23 11:38                                                           ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                                             ` <20151123113846.GH1929-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-27 19:26                                                               ` Heiner Kallweit
     [not found]                                                                 ` <5658AE7C.3050507-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-30 16:42                                                                   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20151130164223.GE1929-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-30 20:15                                                                       ` Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-21 23:08                                               ` [PATCH 2/3] mtd: m25p80: handle HW message size restrictions Heiner Kallweit
     [not found]                                                 ` <5650F952.2060409-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-22 12:51                                                   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-11-21 23:11                                               ` [PATCH 3/3] spi: fsl-espi: make use of max_msg_size in spi_master to handle HW restrictions Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-30 20:24                                               ` [PATCH v2 1/2] spi: core: add max_msg_size to spi_master Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-30 20:25                                               ` [PATCH resubmit 2/2] spi: fsl-espi: make use of max_msg_size in spi_master to handle HW restrictions Heiner Kallweit
     [not found]                                                 ` <565CB0C0.9060104-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-01 14:19                                                   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                                     ` <20151201141923.GJ1929-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-01 18:53                                                       ` Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-22 13:19                                           ` RfC: Handle SPI controller limitations like maximum message length Mark Brown
2015-11-20  0:02   ` Brian Norris
     [not found]     ` <20151120000226.GP64635-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-20  6:59       ` Heiner Kallweit
     [not found]         ` <564EC4E0.90602-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-20 10:06           ` Heiner Kallweit
     [not found]             ` <CAFSsGVsJBi6yPin7X9MCS8LD6nygjynfgDgFicjojkm0rOJSJw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-20 12:35               ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                 ` <20151120123540.GC1929-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-20 18:59                   ` Heiner Kallweit
     [not found]                     ` <564F6D99.8090203-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-20 19:05                       ` Michal Suchanek
     [not found]                         ` <CAOMqctTt=78C4m2jjMb9mRBOkoZ5uZ4neVm0NS39iNO8otn=dA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-20 19:21                           ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                             ` <20151120192157.GF1929-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-20 19:44                               ` Michal Suchanek
2015-11-20 23:22                           ` Brian Norris
     [not found]                             ` <20151120232211.GA64635-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-21 22:53                               ` Heiner Kallweit [this message]
2015-11-20 19:18                       ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                         ` <20151120191842.GE1929-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-20 19:37                           ` Heiner Kallweit
2015-11-20 12:31       ` Mark Brown
2015-11-20 12:56   ` Michal Suchanek
     [not found]     ` <CAOMqctQo58yCfzU3u=u3N0zNfhQph2Pw2vnrxsVvAEXi5n2HRw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-20 23:07       ` Brian Norris

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