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From: Christer Weinigel <christer-rKHMIqA5R6gwFerOooGFRg@public.gmane.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-spi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] devicetree - document using aliases to set spi bus number.
Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 20:57:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5744A402.8050409@weinigel.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160524183256.GP8206-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>

On 05/24/2016 08:32 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 08:03:48PM +0200, Christer Weinigel wrote:
>> On 05/24/2016 07:20 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
> 
>>> I'm not sure this is something we want to support at all, I
>>> can't immediately see anything that does this deliberately in
>>> the SPI code and obviously the "bus number" is something of a
>>> Linux specific concept which would need some explanation if we
>>> were going to document it.  It's something I'm struggling a bit
>>> to see a robust use case for that isn't better served by
>>> parsing sysfs, what's the goal here?
> 
>> If this isn't something that should be in the
>> Documentation/devicetree because it's not generig enough, where
>> should Linux-specific interpretations such as this be
>> documented?
> 
> I'm not clear that we want to document this at all since I am not
> clear that there is a sensible use case for doing it.  I did ask
> for one but you've not articulated one in this reply.  I am much
> less gung ho than Grant on this one, even as a Linux specific
> interface it seems very legacy.

It's bloody convenient.  I'm working with a Zync board right now where
we have multiple SPI ports.  Being able to label the ports on the
board spi1, spi2 and spi3 and having spidev devices show up as
/dev/spidev1.0 instead of dynamic assignment makes things much easier.
 Especially when doing driver development where unloading and
reloading the spi driver module will give it a new dynamic number
every time.

Yes, it's possible to iterate through all files /sys/class/spi_master
and then have a table to map those names to device names and create
symlinks to them, it's just painful.  It's much easier to do be able
to do "cat data >/dev/spidev1.0" from busybox and not have to set up
all that infrastructure.  And yes, this is on an embedded system using
busybox without udev.

In addition, right now I have a couple of different variants of the
boards that I work on, and with different SPI ports at different
addresses.   It's rather nice to be able to reuse the same kernel +
ramdisk on multiple variants and only have to update the devicetree to
get sensible devices names on all variants.

  /Christer
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-05-24 18:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-24 16:39 [PATCH] devicetree - document using aliases to set spi bus number Christer Weinigel
2016-05-24 17:20 ` Mark Brown
2016-05-24 18:03   ` Christer Weinigel
2016-05-24 18:32     ` Mark Brown
     [not found]       ` <20160524183256.GP8206-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-24 18:57         ` Christer Weinigel [this message]
     [not found]           ` <5744A402.8050409-rKHMIqA5R6gwFerOooGFRg@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-25 12:19             ` Mark Rutland
2016-05-25 12:50               ` Mark Brown
2016-05-25 12:33             ` Mark Brown
2016-05-24 23:34         ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]           ` <5744E51A.1040506-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-25  0:18             ` Frank Rowand
2016-05-25 17:49           ` Rob Herring
2016-05-25 18:03             ` Mark Brown
2016-05-25 18:06             ` Frank Rowand
2016-05-25 18:44               ` Mark Brown
2016-05-26  1:10                 ` Christer Weinigel
     [not found]                   ` <57464D0A.1030706-rKHMIqA5R6gwFerOooGFRg@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-26  1:44                     ` Rob Herring
2016-05-26  1:56                       ` Christer Weinigel
     [not found]                         ` <574657BB.6070300-rKHMIqA5R6gwFerOooGFRg@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-26 10:07                           ` Mark Brown
2016-05-26 10:58                             ` Christer Weinigel
     [not found]                               ` <5746D6CE.5020605-rKHMIqA5R6gwFerOooGFRg@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-26 18:47                                 ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                   ` <20160526184746.GF16172-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-26 21:04                                     ` Christer Weinigel
2016-05-27 16:43                                       ` Mark Brown
2016-05-24 17:41 ` Mark Rutland
2016-05-24 20:41   ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]     ` <5744BC76.9090403-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-25  9:20       ` Mark Rutland
2016-05-25 10:38         ` Mark Brown
2016-05-25 11:20           ` Christer Weinigel
     [not found]             ` <57458A64.2090901-rKHMIqA5R6gwFerOooGFRg@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-25 12:34               ` Mark Rutland
2016-05-25 13:08                 ` Mark Brown
2016-05-25 15:32         ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]           ` <5745C5A3.6060202-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-25 15:59             ` Mark Rutland
2016-05-25 16:21               ` Frank Rowand
2016-05-25 18:02               ` Mark Brown
2016-05-25 17:48             ` Mark Brown
2016-05-25 18:46               ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                 ` <5745F30B.2040605-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-27 18:36                   ` Mark Brown
2016-05-28 20:57                     ` Christer Weinigel
     [not found]                       ` <574A063D.5030700-rKHMIqA5R6gwFerOooGFRg@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-30 16:13                         ` Mark Brown
2016-05-25 15:25   ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]     ` <5745C3F8.4020909-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-25 16:06       ` Mark Rutland
2016-05-25 16:31         ` Frank Rowand
2016-05-25 18:44   ` Rob Herring
2016-05-25 18:48     ` Mark Brown
2016-05-26  8:21     ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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