From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from relay5.mymailcheap.com (relay5.mymailcheap.com [159.100.241.64]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1480319E99E; Wed, 23 Oct 2024 10:10:28 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=159.100.241.64 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1729678231; cv=none; b=Q1T5+wMUKuVxz4c9YeqcbEfgXsOl1bc3fR690nqMtWYgVb1a2IQ8ZYiLUaU7eeL3scFUbZbOQ/piKxPlvNKawJaKwF2WtX1t6lz68G5E5k7TMMsbtGwg4BVyAR+npPSmq6HPlhoC2YTUlbsJtj9Zl65YgZjwHgGUZ3lnOhas/LQ= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1729678231; c=relaxed/simple; bh=k3SnHG7oA3l5HZSfi1tB7TiZdo9WbfAs0mivdJqWgUA=; h=MIME-Version:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Message-ID:Content-Type; b=ClprA59Dm1ZXxkrQs5niJ6O8VPNoYP7rWjihtgazvzI7U0o20z0rq6jWyflUEzO8nSwnAVxB0ZYyJk+1oDWQKAoVH7gyf8hIxKibxV1nY5GUwPTlVgnHZshFMsuECqF7KP1/Ep29HPC9Z4ZKKYBqpSLG07BIEH1BlzBLFlhZAOo= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=aosc.io; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=aosc.io; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=aosc.io header.i=@aosc.io header.b=Umr0psrm; arc=none smtp.client-ip=159.100.241.64 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=aosc.io Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=aosc.io Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=aosc.io header.i=@aosc.io header.b="Umr0psrm" Received: from relay4.mymailcheap.com (relay4.mymailcheap.com [137.74.80.154]) by relay5.mymailcheap.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BD4F20056; Wed, 23 Oct 2024 10:10:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nf2.mymailcheap.com (nf2.mymailcheap.com [54.39.180.165]) by relay4.mymailcheap.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9932031B; Wed, 23 Oct 2024 10:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail20.mymailcheap.com (mail20.mymailcheap.com [51.83.111.147]) by nf2.mymailcheap.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 50CB940071; Wed, 23 Oct 2024 10:10:16 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=aosc.io; s=default; t=1729678215; bh=k3SnHG7oA3l5HZSfi1tB7TiZdo9WbfAs0mivdJqWgUA=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=Umr0psrmam/LzPClkicD6UONSbNtPFt2zd+HnRZ33WMqljjb/ERG1gQxqLuL/UALX zG1oHfQPfJpGIvCVJirzaft9phPUwh2VWYIbowP8RGXfcifTkvUpdgW1qijU76cBPO SNrwEqnmTJd/9tabIqPFGhObkbafmG+vYJZEA7po= Received: from mail20.mymailcheap.com (mail20.mymailcheap.com [51.83.111.147]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail20.mymailcheap.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AAADC411E7; Wed, 23 Oct 2024 10:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-spi@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:10:14 +0800 From: Mingcong Bai To: Jiaxun Yang Cc: WangYuli , gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, patches@lists.linux.dev, nikita@trvn.ru, ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru, shc_work@mail.ru, richard.henderson@linaro.org, mattst88@gmail.com, linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, fancer.lancer@gmail.com, linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org, dmaengine@vger.kernel.org, xeb@mail.ru, netdev@vger.kernel.org, s.shtylyov@omp.ru, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, serjk@netup.ru, aospan@netup.ru, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, ddrokosov@sberdevices.ru, linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, v.georgiev@metrotek.ru, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, ntb@lists.linux.dev, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org, linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, dushistov@mail.ru, manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org, conor.dooley@microchip.com, linux-fpga@vger.kernel.org, tsbogend@alpha.franken.de, hoan@os.amperecomputing.com, geert@linux-m68k.org, wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove some entries due to various compliance requirements. In-Reply-To: <418359de-e084-47f9-9090-7980e41661e0@flygoat.com> References: <2024101835-tiptop-blip-09ed@gregkh> <444fa53bdfdee75522a1af41655a99b0@aosc.io> <418359de-e084-47f9-9090-7980e41661e0@flygoat.com> Message-ID: <5d8614084599ff1b7f70aa1b427bdfb3@aosc.io> X-Sender: jeffbai@aosc.io Organization: Anthon Open Source Community Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Server: nf2.mymailcheap.com X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 50CB940071 X-Rspamd-Action: no action X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.40 / 10.00]; SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS(1.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:51.83.0.0/16, country:FR]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCPT_COUNT_TWELVE(0.00)[37]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[renesas]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVRCPT(0.00)[gmail.com,mail.ru]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[uniontech.com,linuxfoundation.org,lists.linux.dev,trvn.ru,jurassic.park.msu.ru,mail.ru,linaro.org,gmail.com,vger.kernel.org,lists.infradead.org,omp.ru,netup.ru,sberdevices.ru,metrotek.ru,microchip.com,alpha.franken.de,os.amperecomputing.com,linux-m68k.org,sang-engineering.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[] Greetings again (oops), I messed up the reference levels when I sent my disclosure. Jiaxun got most of the references right but the last sentence. 在 2024-10-23 17:53，Jiaxun Yang 写道： > On 2024/10/23 09:26, Mingcong Bai wrote: >> No, no, no. Nuh, uh. >> >> Greg has unfortunately decided to respond in private over a matter >> that by no means should be glossed over. Here below is our >> conversation: > > I can't believe a senior maintainer is breaking our agreed netiquette > [1], but that's happening. > >> 在 2024-10-23 15:55，Greg KH 写道： > [...] >> >> Request declined. Your response is now public knowledge (and hey, if >> this is not by your will, my apologies). Again, this matter requires >> public response. >> >>> 在 2024-10-23 14:30，WangYuli 写道： Although this commit has been merged, >>> it's still important to know the >>> specific reason (or even an example) that triggered this change for >>> everyone here, right? >>> >>> And those maintainers who have been removed should be notified. >>> Seconded. >> >> Sorry, but that's not how this is allowed to work.  Please contact >> your >> company lawyers if you have any questions about this.  And this only >> affects maintainers, as you aren't listed in the MAINTAINERS file, >> there >> should not be any issue, but again, contact your company if you have >> any >> questions as they know what is going on. > > I think there are no regulations on earth preventing itself from being > referenced. > Even if the regulation prevents further communication with affected > bodies, > the wider community still deserves an explanation. > > As a person with M entries I found this behavior appalling. It shakes > mutual > trust between maintainers, as we all assumed that patches being applied > are > well scrutinized. > > Besides, many of us are working on kernel as hobbyist  in a personal > capacity. > That means we don't have access to lawyers, especially US one. While I > understand > corporate participants may be the majority of the community, please > don't leave > hobbyists behind! > > I've had some interactions with some of people being removed here, and > I would > say they are all brilliant individuals. It's  really sad to see them > being turned away :-( > >> >> Just *wink* if you were compelled into this. > ^ It sounds unprofessional to me. For the record, I wrote that unprofessional sentence ("Just *wink*"), since it was private. Best Regards, Mingcong Bai > > Thanks > - Jiaxun > > [1]: https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette-qw89 >> >>> thanks, >>> >>> greg k-h >> >> Best Regards, >> Mingcong Bai >>