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From: David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com>
To: "Nuno Sá" <noname.nuno@gmail.com>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Cameron" <jic23@kernel.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Nuno Sá" <nuno.sa@analog.com>
Cc: Michael Hennerich <Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>,
	Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
	David Jander <david@protonic.nl>,
	Martin Sperl <kernel@martin.sperl.org>,
	linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 0/9] spi: axi-spi-engine: add offload support
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 08:48:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9fd9ed71-4b2d-49a7-9432-1747ae2e9aef@baylibre.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <75511e8371f7ffea1ed84a784231f3dc51363842.camel@gmail.com>

On 7/23/24 2:35 AM, Nuno Sá wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> 
> I think there are things that we need to better figure but things are improving
> IMO :)
> 
> I'm only doing a very superficial review since I need to better look at the
> patches...
> 
> But one thing that I do want to mention is a scenario (another funny one...)
> that I've discussing and that might be a reality. Something like:
> 
> +-------------------------------+    +------------------+
> |                               |    |                  |
> |  SOC/FPGA                     |    |   ADC            |
> |                               |    |                  |
> |       +---------------+       |    |                  |
> |       |  SPI PS Zynq  |============== SPI Bus         |
> |       +---------------+       |    |                  |
> |                               |    |                  |
> |  +---------------------+      |    |                  |
> |  | AXI SPI Engine      |      |    |                  |
> |  |                 v================ DATA Bus         |
> |  |                 v   |      |    |                  |
> |  |   +---------------+ |      |    |                  |
> |  |  | Offload 0     |  |      |    +------------------+
> |  |  |   RX DATA OUT |  |      |
> |  |  |    TRIGGER IN |  |      |
> |  |  +---------------+  |      |
> |                               |
> +-------------------------------+
> 
> From the above, the spi controller for typical register access/configuration is
> not the spi_enigine and the offload core is pretty much only used for streaming
> data. So I think your current approach would not work with this usecase. In your
> first RFC you had something overly complicated (IMHO) but you already had a
> concept that maybe it's worth looking at again. I mean having a spi_offload
> object that could describe it and more importantly have a provider/consumer
> logic where a spi consumer (or maybe even something else?) can get()/put() an
> offload object to stream data.

Although it isn't currently implemented this way in the core SPI code, I think
the DT bindings proposed in this version of the series would allow for this.
The offload provider is just the one with the #spi-offload-cells and doesn't
necessarily have to be the parent of the SPI peripheral.

> 
> I know, I did said that I did not liked for spi consumers to have to explicitly
> call something like spi_offload_get() but I guess I have been proved wrong :).
> We can also try to be smart about it as an explicit get is only needed (likely)
> in the above scenario (or maybe we can even do it directly in the spi core
> during spi_probe()). Or maybe it's not worth it to play smart and just let
> consumers do it (that's the typical pattern anyways).
> 
> Having said the above, I still think your current proposal for triggers and
> getting DMA streams is valid for the above usecase.
> 
> FWIW, I'm also trying to understand with the HW guys why the hell can't we just
> use the spi_engine controller for everything. But the whole discussion is
> already showing us that we may need more flexibility.
> 
> Thanks!
> - Nuno Sá


  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-23 13:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-22 21:57 [PATCH RFC v3 0/9] spi: axi-spi-engine: add offload support David Lechner
2024-07-22 21:57 ` [PATCH RFC v3 1/9] spi: dt-bindings: add spi-offload properties David Lechner
2024-07-26 11:47   ` Rob Herring
2024-07-22 21:57 ` [PATCH RFC v3 2/9] spi: add basic support for SPI offloading David Lechner
2024-07-23  7:44   ` Nuno Sá
2024-07-27 13:15   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-30 19:35     ` David Lechner
2024-08-03  9:58       ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-22 21:57 ` [PATCH RFC v3 3/9] spi: add support for hardware triggered offload David Lechner
2024-07-23  7:53   ` Nuno Sá
2024-07-23 14:30     ` David Lechner
2024-07-24 12:59       ` Nuno Sá
2024-07-27 13:26   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-22 21:57 ` [PATCH RFC v3 4/9] spi: add offload TX/RX streaming APIs David Lechner
2024-07-22 21:57 ` [PATCH RFC v3 5/9] spi: dt-bindings: axi-spi-engine: document spi-offloads David Lechner
2024-07-26 12:38   ` Rob Herring
2024-07-26 19:17     ` David Lechner
2024-08-14 15:58       ` Conor Dooley
2024-08-14 17:14         ` David Lechner
2024-07-22 21:57 ` [PATCH RFC v3 6/9] spi: axi-spi-engine: implement offload support David Lechner
2024-07-23  8:01   ` Nuno Sá
2024-07-23 14:19     ` David Lechner
2024-07-24 13:07       ` Nuno Sá
2024-07-22 21:57 ` [PATCH RFC v3 7/9] iio: buffer-dmaengine: generalize requesting DMA channel David Lechner
2024-07-27 13:43   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-22 21:57 ` [PATCH RFC v3 8/9] dt-bindings: iio: adc: adi,ad7944: add SPI offload properties David Lechner
2024-07-22 21:57 ` [PATCH RFC v3 9/9] iio: adc: ad7944: add support for SPI offload David Lechner
2024-07-23  8:22   ` Nuno Sá
2024-07-27 13:50   ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-23  7:35 ` [PATCH RFC v3 0/9] spi: axi-spi-engine: add offload support Nuno Sá
2024-07-23 13:48   ` David Lechner [this message]
2024-07-24 13:16     ` Nuno Sá
2024-07-23  8:58 ` Conor Dooley
2024-08-14 16:06   ` Conor Dooley
2024-09-05 11:33 ` Mark Brown

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