From: David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com>
To: "Nuno Sá" <noname.nuno@gmail.com>,
"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
"Jonathan Cameron" <jic23@kernel.org>,
"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
"Nuno Sá" <nuno.sa@analog.com>
Cc: Michael Hennerich <Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>,
Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
David Jander <david@protonic.nl>,
Martin Sperl <kernel@martin.sperl.org>,
linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 0/9] spi: axi-spi-engine: add offload support
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 08:48:02 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9fd9ed71-4b2d-49a7-9432-1747ae2e9aef@baylibre.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <75511e8371f7ffea1ed84a784231f3dc51363842.camel@gmail.com>
On 7/23/24 2:35 AM, Nuno Sá wrote:
> Hi David,
>
>
> I think there are things that we need to better figure but things are improving
> IMO :)
>
> I'm only doing a very superficial review since I need to better look at the
> patches...
>
> But one thing that I do want to mention is a scenario (another funny one...)
> that I've discussing and that might be a reality. Something like:
>
> +-------------------------------+ +------------------+
> | | | |
> | SOC/FPGA | | ADC |
> | | | |
> | +---------------+ | | |
> | | SPI PS Zynq |============== SPI Bus |
> | +---------------+ | | |
> | | | |
> | +---------------------+ | | |
> | | AXI SPI Engine | | | |
> | | v================ DATA Bus |
> | | v | | | |
> | | +---------------+ | | | |
> | | | Offload 0 | | | +------------------+
> | | | RX DATA OUT | | |
> | | | TRIGGER IN | | |
> | | +---------------+ | |
> | |
> +-------------------------------+
>
> From the above, the spi controller for typical register access/configuration is
> not the spi_enigine and the offload core is pretty much only used for streaming
> data. So I think your current approach would not work with this usecase. In your
> first RFC you had something overly complicated (IMHO) but you already had a
> concept that maybe it's worth looking at again. I mean having a spi_offload
> object that could describe it and more importantly have a provider/consumer
> logic where a spi consumer (or maybe even something else?) can get()/put() an
> offload object to stream data.
Although it isn't currently implemented this way in the core SPI code, I think
the DT bindings proposed in this version of the series would allow for this.
The offload provider is just the one with the #spi-offload-cells and doesn't
necessarily have to be the parent of the SPI peripheral.
>
> I know, I did said that I did not liked for spi consumers to have to explicitly
> call something like spi_offload_get() but I guess I have been proved wrong :).
> We can also try to be smart about it as an explicit get is only needed (likely)
> in the above scenario (or maybe we can even do it directly in the spi core
> during spi_probe()). Or maybe it's not worth it to play smart and just let
> consumers do it (that's the typical pattern anyways).
>
> Having said the above, I still think your current proposal for triggers and
> getting DMA streams is valid for the above usecase.
>
> FWIW, I'm also trying to understand with the HW guys why the hell can't we just
> use the spi_engine controller for everything. But the whole discussion is
> already showing us that we may need more flexibility.
>
> Thanks!
> - Nuno Sá
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-23 13:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-22 21:57 [PATCH RFC v3 0/9] spi: axi-spi-engine: add offload support David Lechner
2024-07-22 21:57 ` [PATCH RFC v3 1/9] spi: dt-bindings: add spi-offload properties David Lechner
2024-07-26 11:47 ` Rob Herring
2024-07-22 21:57 ` [PATCH RFC v3 2/9] spi: add basic support for SPI offloading David Lechner
2024-07-23 7:44 ` Nuno Sá
2024-07-27 13:15 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-30 19:35 ` David Lechner
2024-08-03 9:58 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-22 21:57 ` [PATCH RFC v3 3/9] spi: add support for hardware triggered offload David Lechner
2024-07-23 7:53 ` Nuno Sá
2024-07-23 14:30 ` David Lechner
2024-07-24 12:59 ` Nuno Sá
2024-07-27 13:26 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-22 21:57 ` [PATCH RFC v3 4/9] spi: add offload TX/RX streaming APIs David Lechner
2024-07-22 21:57 ` [PATCH RFC v3 5/9] spi: dt-bindings: axi-spi-engine: document spi-offloads David Lechner
2024-07-26 12:38 ` Rob Herring
2024-07-26 19:17 ` David Lechner
2024-08-14 15:58 ` Conor Dooley
2024-08-14 17:14 ` David Lechner
2024-07-22 21:57 ` [PATCH RFC v3 6/9] spi: axi-spi-engine: implement offload support David Lechner
2024-07-23 8:01 ` Nuno Sá
2024-07-23 14:19 ` David Lechner
2024-07-24 13:07 ` Nuno Sá
2024-07-22 21:57 ` [PATCH RFC v3 7/9] iio: buffer-dmaengine: generalize requesting DMA channel David Lechner
2024-07-27 13:43 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-22 21:57 ` [PATCH RFC v3 8/9] dt-bindings: iio: adc: adi,ad7944: add SPI offload properties David Lechner
2024-07-22 21:57 ` [PATCH RFC v3 9/9] iio: adc: ad7944: add support for SPI offload David Lechner
2024-07-23 8:22 ` Nuno Sá
2024-07-27 13:50 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-07-23 7:35 ` [PATCH RFC v3 0/9] spi: axi-spi-engine: add offload support Nuno Sá
2024-07-23 13:48 ` David Lechner [this message]
2024-07-24 13:16 ` Nuno Sá
2024-07-23 8:58 ` Conor Dooley
2024-08-14 16:06 ` Conor Dooley
2024-09-05 11:33 ` Mark Brown
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