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From: "Fabio M. De Francesco" <fmdefrancesco@gmail.com>
To: Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>
Cc: Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>,
	Phillip Potter <phil@philpotter.co.uk>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Pavel Skripkin <paskripkin@gmail.com>,
	linux-staging@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	David Laight <david.Laight@aculab.com>,
	Martin Kaiser <martin@kaiser.cx>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 15/19] staging: r8188eu: change the type of a variable in rtw_read16()
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 18:17:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3187315.KoBY3qX4Pt@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210920131036.GR2088@kadam>

On Monday, September 20, 2021 3:10:36 PM CEST Dan Carpenter wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 03:03:44PM +0200, Fabio M. De Francesco wrote:
> > On Monday, September 20, 2021 1:56:47 PM CEST Dan Carpenter wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 01:53:52AM +0200, Fabio M. De Francesco wrote:
> > > > Change the type of "data" from __le32 to __le16.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > You should note in the commit message that:
> > > 
> > > The last two bytes of "data" are not initialized so the 
le32_to_cpu(data)
> > > technically reads uninitialized data.  This can likely be detected by
> > > the KASan checker as reading uninitialized data.  But because the bytes
> > > are discarded in the end so this will not affect runtime.
> > > 
> > > regards,
> > > dan carpenter
> > > 
> > 
> > Dear Dan,
> > 
> > Thanks for your suggestion about this specific topic. 
> > 
> > We thought that, since "data" is in bitwise AND with 0xffff before being 
> > passed to the callee, it was enough to have reviewers know why we're 
doing 
> > that change of type with no further explanations. Actually it seems to be 
not 
> > enough to motivate that change.
> > 
> > We will surely use the note you provided. 
> > 
> > However, since I'm not used to blindly follow suggestions (even if I 
trust 
> > your words with no doubts at all) without complete understanding of what 
I'm 
> > doing, I will need to understand what KASan is before copy-paste your 
note.
> 
> Google is your friend!

Yes, it is :)

I think you were referring to the KernelMemorySanitizer (KMSan), a detector 
of uses of uninitialized memory (but it seems to not be upstream):
https://github.com/google/kmsan

Instead you wrote about the The Kernel Address Sanitizer (KASan) that seems 
to be a dynamic memory error detector designed to find out-of-bound and use-
after-free bugs (this is upstream):
https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v5.0/dev-tools/kasan.html

Can you please confirm?

Back to the code... uninitialised data is not a problem in the old code, it's 
just bad design. The new code cannot affect runtime, it's just better design. 

There's no change in runtime behaviour because of different protection nets:
Aside from the bitwise AND that truncate that variable two the size of two 
bytes and set the higher bytes to 0, memcpy() inside usbctrl_vendorreq(), the 
new usb_read() and usb_write uses memcpy() with count = size (and size is 
checked also in rtw_writeN()). 

I can't see any bugs. Just bad design, that we fix and possible sanitizer's 
warning, that disappear with our fixes. Am I right?

Thanks,

Fabio


> 
> Either way reading uninitialized data is generally bad.  The trickier
> thing is showing that your changes don't affect runtime.  For both of
> these le32 to le16 changes.
> 
> regards,
> dan carpenter
> 
> 





  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-20 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-19 23:53 [PATCH v8 00/19] staging: r8188eu: shorten and simplify calls chains Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-19 23:53 ` [PATCH v8 01/19] staging: r8188eu: clean up symbols usbctrl_vendorreq() Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-20 11:46   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-09-19 23:53 ` [PATCH v8 02/19] staging: r8188eu: reorder declarations in usbctrl_vendorreq() Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-19 23:53 ` [PATCH v8 03/19] staging: r8188eu: remove unnecessary test " Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-20 11:47   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-09-19 23:53 ` [PATCH v8 04/19] staging: r8188eu: reorder comments " Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-20 11:48   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-09-19 23:53 ` [PATCH v8 05/19] staging: r8188eu: remove unnedeed parentheses " Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-19 23:53 ` [PATCH v8 06/19] staging: r8188eu: remove unnecessary space " Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-19 23:53 ` [PATCH v8 07/19] staging: r8188eu: remove unnecessary comment " Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-20 11:48   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-09-19 23:53 ` [PATCH v8 08/19] staging: r8188eu: fix grammar mistake " Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-20 11:49   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-09-19 23:53 ` [PATCH v8 09/19] staging: r8188eu: remove unnecessary braces " Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-20 11:49   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-09-19 23:53 ` [PATCH v8 10/19] staging: r8188eu: rename symbols in rtw_read*() and rtw_write*() Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-20 11:50   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-09-19 23:53 ` [PATCH v8 11/19] staging: r8188eu: remove unnecessary casts from rtw_{read,write}*() Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-19 23:53 ` [PATCH v8 12/19] staging: r8188eu: change the type of a variable in rtw_write16() Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-20 11:50   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-09-19 23:53 ` [PATCH v8 13/19] staging: r8188eu: remove an unneeded buffer from rtw_writeN() Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-19 23:53 ` [PATCH v8 14/19] staging: r8188eu: remove an unnecessary bit AND " Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-19 23:53 ` [PATCH v8 15/19] staging: r8188eu: change the type of a variable in rtw_read16() Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-20 11:51   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-09-20 11:56   ` Dan Carpenter
2021-09-20 13:03     ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-20 13:10       ` Dan Carpenter
2021-09-20 16:17         ` Fabio M. De Francesco [this message]
2021-09-20 19:01           ` Dan Carpenter
2021-09-20 19:54             ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-21  5:35               ` Dan Carpenter
2021-09-19 23:53 ` [PATCH v8 16/19] staging: r8188eu: call the new usb_read() from rtw_read{8,16,32}() Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-19 23:53 ` [PATCH v8 17/19] staging: r8188eu: call the new usb_write() from rtw_write{8,16,32,N}() Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-19 23:53 ` [PATCH v8 18/19] staging: r8188eu: remove shared buffer for USB requests Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-19 23:53 ` [PATCH v8 19/19] staging: r8188eu: remove usb_vendor_req_mutex Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-20 11:55 ` [PATCH v8 00/19] staging: r8188eu: shorten and simplify calls chains Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-09-20 13:44   ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-09-20 14:06     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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