From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF88479F2 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 08:44:05 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="dIvhcxJL" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 70EDDC433C7; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 08:44:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1697013845; bh=dd+UyXR1Az0fXvBPCAsefm8xWqDo7U7mAoE7+i7ryUE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=dIvhcxJLLadwnP7CezapgQe2im9mEM3TP/AijgNT/ZsH9TFSKOcFzdqhAcy1jy8UI iM5xhmQ3NyeKbQAbugNyzd7NWp7WC/V7j7dLKQKshgw9VQI/aWWxx+bCmUZF7A9C3u /E3J1to57u2h9PetDUpbkFjbdoAGAuwfUHOhb/cqm0wWAHrw6wcJUu5uPrAJhHWYJl PAA/4AtfQ3Kc27tZjvO8n7uXIj78NJhUA/6ARVjOajhYx5I+Sr9Kd9XYe8lxWhYsDf pNUNi9gAFcWpCSoceUhogcF4HrR5hXvfPJFj9xlDHZR765EeQwURSGc7kTCkVjCrgi MGsQibLj2IOMg== From: Kalle Valo To: "Arnd Bergmann" Cc: "Greg Kroah-Hartman" , "Arnd Bergmann" , "Alexandre Belloni" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-staging@lists.linux.dev, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, "Claudiu Beznea" , "Pavel Machek" , "Jakub Kicinski" , "David S . Miller" , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, "Larry Finger" Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] wireless: move obsolete drivers to staging References: <20231010155444.858483-1-arnd@kernel.org> <2023101051-unmasked-cleaver-79b3@gregkh> <87y1g94szz.fsf@kernel.org> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 11:44:00 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Arnd Bergmann's message of "Wed, 11 Oct 2023 09:24:55 +0200") Message-ID: <87r0m14khb.fsf@kernel.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-staging@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain "Arnd Bergmann" writes: > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023, at 07:40, Kalle Valo wrote: >> Greg Kroah-Hartman writes: >> >> We (the wireless folks) have been talking about dropping legacy drivers >> on and off for several years now. The problem is that we don't know >> which of them work and which not, for example IIRC someone reported >> recently that wl3501 still works. >> >> Personally I would be extremly happy to remove all the ancient drivers >> as that reduces the amount of code for us to maintain but is that the >> right thing to do for the users? I don't have an answer to that, >> comments very welcome. > > I had a look at what openwrt enables, to see if any of the drivers > in my RFC patch are actually enabled, if anything supports legacy > embedded devices with these it would be openwrt. The good news here > is that openwrt intentionally leaves WEXT disabled, and none of them > are still in use. I don't think openwrt is a good metric in this case. These drivers are for 20+ years old hardware, most likely running on really old x86 laptops. So the chances of them running openwrt on those laptops is low and I would expect them to run more traditional distros like debian or ubuntu. But of course this is just guessing. -- https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-wireless/list/ https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/developers/documentation/submittingpatches