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From: Phillip Potter <phil@philpotter.co.uk>
To: "Fabio M. De Francesco" <fmdefrancesco@gmail.com>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Martin Kaiser <martin@kaiser.cx>,
	Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>,
	Michael Straube <straube.linux@gmail.com>,
	linux-staging@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] staging: r8188eu: don't accept SIGTERM for cmd thread
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2021 11:29:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YWv67ozbJGxMa69t@equinox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2409617.cBYgoVRs56@localhost.localdomain>

On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 08:53:15PM +0200, Fabio M. De Francesco wrote:
> On Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:13:43 PM CEST Martin Kaiser wrote:
> > At the moment, our command thread can be killed by user space.
> > 
> > [root@host ]# kill `pidof RTW_CMD_THREAD`
> > 
> > The driver will then stop working until the module is unloaded
> > and reloaded.
> > 
> > Don't process SIGTERM in the command thread. Other drivers that have a
> > command thread don't process SIGTERM either.
> 
> Hi Martin,
> 
> This is _really_ interesting :)
> 
> May be that you have had time to read my last email in reply to a message of 
> Phillip P. Soon after writing of the arguments in favor of using 
> wait_for_completion_killable() (in patch 2/3 of the series I sent today), I 
> read your patch.
> 
> If you are right (and I think you are) I'll have to send a v2 that replaces 
> the killable wait with an uninterruptible one.
> 
> Unfortunately I have not the needed experience to decide whether or not to 
> ack your patch, even if I'm strongly tempted to do it.
> 
> Let's wait for more experienced people.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Fabio 
> 

So I myself am a little confused on this one :-)

Based on my understanding, so correct me if I'm wrong, a process (kthread or
otherwise) can still be killed if marked TASK_KILLABLE, even if ignoring
SIGTERM. Indeed, from a userspace perspective, SIGKILL is unblockable
anyway - although of course kernel code can choose how to respond to it.

So in other words, the kthread could still be killed while waiting
in the wait_for_completion_killable() call, even if we are ignoring
SIGTERM. From that perspective I guess, it is therefore not 'incorrect' as
such - if indeed we wanted that behaviour.

That said, killing it would still cause the behaviour Martin mentions -
I guess we don't want it to be either killable or interruptible based on
that logic?

Regards,
Phil

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-17 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-16 18:13 [PATCH 0/3] staging: r8188eu: clean up osdep_service.h Martin Kaiser
2021-10-16 18:13 ` [PATCH 1/3] staging: r8188eu: res_to_status is unused Martin Kaiser
2021-10-16 18:54   ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-10-17 12:46   ` Michael Straube
2021-10-16 18:13 ` [PATCH 2/3] staging: r8188eu: daemonize is not defined Martin Kaiser
2021-10-16 18:59   ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-10-17 12:48   ` Michael Straube
2021-10-16 18:13 ` [PATCH 3/3] staging: r8188eu: don't accept SIGTERM for cmd thread Martin Kaiser
2021-10-16 18:53   ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-10-17 10:29     ` Phillip Potter [this message]
2021-10-17 12:51       ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-10-17 14:13         ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-10-17 18:02         ` Martin Kaiser
2021-10-17 20:12           ` Phillip Potter
2021-10-17 13:14       ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-10-17 14:11         ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-10-17 13:19       ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2021-10-17 14:47   ` Fabio M. De Francesco

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