From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from vps0.lunn.ch (vps0.lunn.ch [156.67.10.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 607381C6FEC; Sun, 6 Jul 2025 07:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=156.67.10.101 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1751788244; cv=none; b=dPb7Ihb5u1YmKi05DdeHFG+W5dFRL5RiPEshau6l+Ia20XWOkQY9pD91BuqtEh7MRDUtNrIBWEO40rY5vmqjo7sb1IDt/Nvw/LtoQv1y1EoIJHiXaOgrcjOEslFAtAEZGfVHeIKw03nEILmSBcz6mZ2hjG4hbU14XE9NAJ/LnFw= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1751788244; c=relaxed/simple; bh=Wz3QIftB7ku50zhSA5I8LX3BPYD+n8UHEOY5M4mivbE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=PFDi3trKpYpIaGYkd9lbSIAfk+H3LMoDwhlsoUouIuMhQuMwLEJ9CZnzhUewOLin5OX108n34294NlTimucoF43pM2YlJ8bYF2RA9mDPFOrHik6gSRw1LOVsozQkZBMfcHVs5bHW0fTzHzwIn61vVwyoPfgsu1rjtCw8lVDmCIY= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=lunn.ch; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lunn.ch; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=lunn.ch header.i=@lunn.ch header.b=wFFIirNL; arc=none smtp.client-ip=156.67.10.101 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=lunn.ch Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lunn.ch Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=lunn.ch header.i=@lunn.ch header.b="wFFIirNL" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lunn.ch; s=20171124; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Disposition:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject: Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:References; bh=tlI66Bz/sqx9wmUZBx5cdl25FDyXH6zR6tjKJVPWCsg=; b=wFFIirNLE5SoKa0/iKXE1484DW r7+gZbf52dzCnHuQfy755y8Q0LISLB/oxnAoxuJ/l6I4++mdjB529Cub/3iLygRFWryyGMtLt0rIr sTemlafQ52D04EZIUumCJSSwLUaLw6XexkFuUUbvKJsJXiXTzzMbItrGwT48zkdQOmyU=; Received: from andrew by vps0.lunn.ch with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uYK8s-000X3d-K1; Sun, 06 Jul 2025 09:50:30 +0200 Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2025 09:50:30 +0200 From: Andrew Lunn To: Andre Przywara Cc: Chen-Yu Tsai , Andrew Lunn , "David S. Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Jakub Kicinski , Paolo Abeni , Rob Herring , Krzysztof Kozlowski , Conor Dooley , Jernej Skrabec , Samuel Holland , netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [PATCH net 0/2] allwinner: a523: Rename emac0 to gmac0 Message-ID: <0f0ca5ce-8ed2-4e07-a1c3-105d602e8cd1@lunn.ch> References: <20250628054438.2864220-1-wens@kernel.org> <20250705083600.2916bf0c@minigeek.lan> <20250706002223.128ff760@minigeek.lan> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20250706002223.128ff760@minigeek.lan> On Sun, Jul 06, 2025 at 12:22:23AM +0100, Andre Przywara wrote: > On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 17:53:17 +0200 > Andrew Lunn wrote: > > Hi Andrew, > > > > So it's really whatever Allwinner wants to call it. I would rather have > > > the names follow the datasheet than us making some scheme up. > > > > Are the datasheets publicly available? > > We collect them in the sunxi wiki (see the links below), but just to > make sure: O.K. The point i was trying to make is that some vendors datasheets are not public, or very restricted, and so names don't matter, since nobody has the datasheets. But if they are open, names are more relevant. I do agree that stuff can be changed when it is in an -rcX kernel. However, it needs to be well justified, ABI related, or very broken. Since this is ABI, it could be changed. But i don't want to make the decision of if it should be changed. Andrew