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From: Peter De Schrijver <pdeschrijver@nvidia.com>
To: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
Cc: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Mikko Perttunen <mperttunen@nvidia.com>,
	"tj@kernel.org" <tj@kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
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	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-ide@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/9] ARM: tegra: Export tegra_powergate_power_on
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 17:11:35 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140708141135.GC23218@tbergstrom-lnx.Nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140708130501.GC9516@ulmo>

> > 
> > Yes, but the problem is that you also need clocks and reset of other modules
> > in the same domain to safely control the domain's status. Eg: the ISPs, VI and
> > CSI share a domain. VI and CSI are useable without ISP and the ISP lacks
> > public documentation. So it's not unlikely a VI and CSI driver will upstreamed
> > someday which means we would need to control the domain and therefore would
> > need to tell that driver about the ISPs clocks and resets even though the
> > driver doesn't know anything about the ISP hw otherwise.
> 
> Can't we make powergates reference counted so that they don't get
> disabled as long as there are any users? Looking for example at the

We could, but then why not switch to the powerdomain code and make powering
off a domain a NOP until we sorted out the context save/restore or fixed
the framework to allow for suspend without turning off the domains?

> display controller driver, modules don't seem to care overly much about
> the powergate's state except that it needs to be turned on before they
> touch some of the registers.
> 
> From a bit of experimentation it also seems like the sequence encoded
> within tegra_powergate_sequence_power_up() isn't at all necessary. I
> couldn't find an authoritative reference for that either, so I'm tempted
> to conclude that it was simply cargo-culted from the dark-ages.
> 
> So I'm thinking that if we ever move to use power domains for this, we
> may be able to just drop any extra handling (well, we'd need to keep it
> for backwards-compatibility... *sigh*) and let drivers handle the clock
> and reset resources.
> 
> On the other hand, given that we already need to keep the existing code
> for backwards-compatibility, I'm not sure there's a real advantage in
> turning them into power domains, since we'd be adding extra code without
> an clear gains (especially since it seems like we'd need even more code
> to properly handle suspend/resume in drivers that need powergates).
> 

Unless we fix the framework to require context save/restore for suspend.
There is a good reason to do that. context save/restore requires energy
as well, so it's not a given that turning off domains in system suspend
will save power.

Cheers,

Peter.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-08 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-04 11:32 [PATCH 0/9] Serial ATA support for NVIDIA Tegra124 Mikko Perttunen
2014-06-04 11:32 ` [PATCH 1/9] of: Add NVIDIA Tegra SATA controller binding Mikko Perttunen
2014-06-16 21:55   ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-04 11:32 ` [PATCH 2/9] ARM: tegra: Add SATA controller to Tegra124 device tree Mikko Perttunen
2014-06-04 11:32 ` [PATCH 3/9] ARM: tegra: Add SATA and SATA power to Jetson TK1 " Mikko Perttunen
     [not found]   ` <1401881559-18469-4-git-send-email-mperttunen-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-16 21:58     ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-04 11:32 ` [PATCH 4/9] clk: tegra: Enable hardware control of SATA PLL Mikko Perttunen
2014-06-16 21:49   ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-17  9:59     ` Peter De Schrijver
2014-06-04 11:32 ` [PATCH 5/9] clk: tegra: Add SATA clocks to Tegra124 initialization table Mikko Perttunen
2014-06-04 11:32 ` [PATCH 6/9] ARM: tegra: Export tegra_powergate_power_on Mikko Perttunen
     [not found]   ` <1401881559-18469-7-git-send-email-mperttunen-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-16 22:01     ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-17 12:13       ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-17 12:28         ` Mikko Perttunen
2014-06-17 14:01         ` Peter De Schrijver
2014-06-17 21:51           ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-18 12:18             ` Peter De Schrijver
2014-06-18 15:37               ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-19  8:02                 ` Peter De Schrijver
2014-06-19  8:36                   ` Peter De Schrijver
2014-06-19 16:01                   ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-23 10:14                     ` Peter De Schrijver
2014-07-08 13:05                       ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-08 14:11                         ` Peter De Schrijver [this message]
2014-07-09  6:31                           ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-09  8:33                             ` Peter De Schrijver
     [not found]                               ` <20140709083311.GE23218-Rysk9IDjsxmJz7etNGeUX8VPkgjIgRvpAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-09 10:25                                 ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-09 10:31                                   ` Lucas Stach
2014-07-09 11:20                                     ` Peter De Schrijver
2014-07-09 11:08                                   ` Peter De Schrijver
     [not found]                                     ` <20140709110816.GF23218-Rysk9IDjsxmJz7etNGeUX8VPkgjIgRvpAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-09 12:04                                       ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-09 12:43                                         ` Peter De Schrijver
2014-07-09 12:56                                           ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-09 13:20                                             ` Peter De Schrijver
2014-07-09 14:42                                               ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-09 16:09                                                 ` Peter De Schrijver
2014-06-04 11:32 ` [PATCH 7/9] ahci: Increase AHCI_MAX_CLKS to 4 Mikko Perttunen
     [not found]   ` <1401881559-18469-8-git-send-email-mperttunen-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-16 22:04     ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-04 11:32 ` [PATCH 8/9] ata: Add support for the Tegra124 SATA controller Mikko Perttunen
     [not found]   ` <1401881559-18469-9-git-send-email-mperttunen-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-05 12:18     ` Rob Herring
2014-06-05 12:59       ` Mikko Perttunen
2014-06-16 22:14     ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-17 12:14     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2014-06-17 16:10       ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-17 16:13         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]           ` <20140617161320.GG31819-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-17 16:14             ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-17 16:23               ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-17 16:32                 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-17 17:04         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2014-06-17 17:36           ` Mikko Perttunen
     [not found]             ` <53A07CA4.7080206-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-17 17:37               ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-04 11:32 ` [PATCH 9/9] ARM: tegra: Add options for Tegra AHCI support to tegra_defconfig Mikko Perttunen
     [not found] ` <1401881559-18469-1-git-send-email-mperttunen-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-05 17:29   ` [PATCH 0/9] Serial ATA support for NVIDIA Tegra124 Stephen Warren
     [not found]     ` <5390A8F9.2090408-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-06  6:27       ` Mikko Perttunen
2014-06-06  7:11         ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-06  7:18           ` Mikko Perttunen
     [not found]         ` <53915F3B.6050806-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-09 18:33           ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]             ` <5395FE0E.80105-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-09 18:49               ` Mikko Perttunen
     [not found]                 ` <539601B4.1010707-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-08 13:08                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-08 13:34                     ` Mikko Perttunen

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