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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] devicetree: Add generic IOMMU device tree bindings
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:22:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140731092241.GA21850@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140731083923.GA31218@ulmo>

[...]

> > > +Examples:
> > > +=========
> > > +
> > > +Single-master IOMMU:
> > > +--------------------
> > > +
> > > +	iommu {
> > > +		#iommu-cells = <0>;
> > > +	};
> > > +
> > > +	master {
> > > +		iommus = <&/iommu>;
> > 
> > Nit: this should be iommus = <&{/iommu}>, or it's not valid dts syntax.
> 
> Done.

Cheers. I take it that was done for the other occurrences too?

> 
> > > +	};
> > > +
> > > +Multiple-master IOMMU with fixed associations:
> > > +----------------------------------------------
> > > +
> > > +	/* multiple-master IOMMU */
> > > +	iommu {
> > > +		/*
> > > +		 * Masters are statically associated with this IOMMU and
> > > +		 * address translation is always enabled.
> > > +		 */
> > > +		#iommu-cells = <0>;
> > 
> > I don't follow why translation being always enabled is relevant to the
> > example; that would seem to be independent from the binding.
> > 
> > Surely the key point is that with no way to distinguish devices, they
> > presumably share the same translations?
> 
> Both aspects are important I think. For #iommu-cells = <0> there is no
> way for the IOMMU driver to know how to enable translation for a given
> device. So it must be either always on or always off.

Sure. But "always on or off" is not the same as "always enabled", which
was what confused me.

> I guess one could say that this is implicit if all masters share the
> same translations. And I guess translations don't always have to be on
> or off technically. Let me try to rephrase this:
> 
> 		/*
> 		 * Masters are statically associated with this IOMMU and share
> 		 * the same address translations because the IOMMU does not
> 		 * have sufficient information to distinguish between masters.
> 		 *
> 		 * Consequently address translation is always on or off for
> 		 * all masters at any given point in time.
> 		 */
> 
> Does that sound better?

That addresses my concern, so yes.

Given these are minor and everyone wants this in now, I'm happy for
these to go through in a fixup patch later.

Cheers,
Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-31  9:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-04 15:29 [PATCH v4] devicetree: Add generic IOMMU device tree bindings Thierry Reding
     [not found] ` <1404487757-18829-1-git-send-email-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-09 13:40   ` Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <20140709134050.GN9485-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-09 14:21       ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-09 18:10         ` Will Deacon
     [not found]           ` <20140709181048.GX9485-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-10  9:49             ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-10 10:23               ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                 ` <20140710102334.GG2449-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-10 10:57                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-10 12:38                     ` Will Deacon
2014-07-11 20:55   ` Rob Clark
     [not found]     ` <CAF6AEGv2P_Uq8CHgm1YdaUeMSNdH62ZwjLnT83Fr5GnxEAhTMw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-12  9:39       ` Will Deacon
     [not found]         ` <20140712093917.GD18601-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-12 11:26           ` Rob Clark
     [not found]             ` <CAF6AEGutHp+3f3iPA+jjaRkqq=5T_vytZ_ESoSqsQ4RHZ8F8yQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-12 12:22               ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                 ` <201407121422.02078.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-12 12:57                   ` Rob Clark
     [not found]                     ` <CAF6AEGs7=3UByP2DLm-uwU03wr7M14x2t-0hLX-VPJ6_eZbU3g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-13  9:43                       ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                         ` <20140713094341.GB23235-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-13 11:43                           ` Rob Clark
2014-07-16  1:25                             ` Olav Haugan
     [not found]                               ` <53C5D480.3030409-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-16 10:10                                 ` Will Deacon
2014-07-16 20:24                                 ` Rob Clark
2014-07-14  6:44                         ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-14 10:08                           ` Will Deacon
2014-07-14  6:24                       ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-14 10:13                         ` Rob Clark
2014-07-14  6:15                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-30 11:04   ` Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <20140730110425.GI12239-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-30 13:23       ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-30 13:33         ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]           ` <20140730133309.GF9809-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-30 17:37             ` Olof Johansson
2014-07-30 14:30         ` Will Deacon
     [not found]           ` <20140730143037.GD8989-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-30 18:08             ` Rob Herring
2014-07-30 20:11         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-30 15:26   ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-30 17:35     ` Olof Johansson
     [not found]       ` <CAOesGMi3zM1-cqmeGddJ69RNXx0ktFm_zXO_yq7N0EeA3HNrUQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-30 18:18         ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-31 10:09           ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-31 10:50             ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-31 11:14               ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-31  9:51         ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-31  8:39     ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-31  9:22       ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2014-07-31 10:18         ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-31 10:23           ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]             ` <20140731102351.GJ9809-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-31 10:46               ` Thierry Reding

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