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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Alexander Van Brunt <avanbrunt@nvidia.com>
Cc: Ashish Mhetre <amhetre@nvidia.com>,
	"mark.rutland@arm.com" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sachin Nikam <Snikam@nvidia.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3] arm64: Don't flush tlb while clearing the accessed bit
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2018 17:53:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181207175330.GC11430@edgewater-inn.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR12MB27120C304F7B085A0CA36124CFA90@BYAPR12MB2712.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Dec 06, 2018 at 08:42:03PM +0000, Alexander Van Brunt wrote:
> > > > If we roll a TLB invalidation routine without the trailing DSB, what sort of
> > > > performance does that get you?
> > > 
> > > It is not as good. In some cases, it is really bad. Skipping the invalidate was
> > > the most consistent and fast implementation.
> 
> > My problem with that is it's not really much different to just skipping the
> > page table update entirely. Skipping the DSB is closer to what is done on
> > x86, where we bound the stale entry time to the next context-switch.
> 
> Which of the three implementations is the "that" and "it" in the first sentence?

that = it = skipping the whole invalidation + the DSB

> > Given that I already queued the version without the DSB, we have the choice
> > to either continue with that or to revert it and go back to the previous
> > behaviour. Which would you prefer?
> 
> To me, skipping the DSB is a win over doing the invalidate and the DSB because
> it is faster on average.
> 
> DSBs have a big impact on the performance of other CPUs in the inner shareable
> domain because of the ordering requirements. For example, we have observed
> Cortex A57s stalling all CPUs in the cluster until Device accesses complete.
> 
> Would you be open to a patch on top of the DSB skipping patch that skips the
> whole invalidate?

I don't think so; we don't have an upper bound on how long we'll have a
stale TLB if remove the invalidation completely.

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-07 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-29  9:25 [PATCH V3] arm64: Don't flush tlb while clearing the accessed bit Ashish Mhetre
2018-10-29  9:57 ` Jon Hunter
2018-10-29 10:55 ` Will Deacon
2018-10-29 15:13   ` Alexander Van Brunt
2018-12-03 21:20     ` Alexander Van Brunt
2018-12-06 19:18       ` Will Deacon
     [not found]         ` <BYAPR12MB271239AAF4A0B79D756850C6CFA90@BYAPR12MB2712.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
2018-12-06 20:42           ` Alexander Van Brunt
2018-12-07 17:53             ` Will Deacon [this message]
2018-12-08  0:05               ` Alexander Van Brunt
     [not found]   ` <4bac3ba7-a005-213d-5ae4-c0e2ee589d5d@nvidia.com>
2018-10-30 11:50     ` Will Deacon

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