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From: Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech>
To: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>, Emma Anholt <emma@anholt.net>,
	Dom Cobley <dom@raspberrypi.com>,
	Tim Gover <tim.gover@raspberrypi.com>,
	Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Jonathan Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	Phil Elwell <phil@raspberrypi.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/13] drm/connector: Add helper to check if a mode requires scrambling
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 11:01:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211117100103.xouysycl5lmrescx@gilmour> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YYlkdHzW4ir07Gtk@intel.com>

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On Mon, Nov 08, 2021 at 07:55:00PM +0200, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 08, 2021 at 04:58:34PM +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 08:14:04PM +0200, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 07:02:30PM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Nov 04, 2021 at 05:37:21PM +0200, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 02, 2021 at 03:59:33PM +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > > > > > --- a/include/drm/drm_modes.h
> > > > > > +++ b/include/drm/drm_modes.h
> > > > > > @@ -424,6 +424,21 @@ static inline bool drm_mode_is_stereo(const struct drm_display_mode *mode)
> > > > > >  	return mode->flags & DRM_MODE_FLAG_3D_MASK;
> > > > > >  }
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > +/**
> > > > > > + * drm_mode_hdmi_requires_scrambling - Checks if a mode requires HDMI Scrambling
> > > > > > + * @mode: DRM display mode
> > > > > > + *
> > > > > > + * Checks if a given display mode requires the scrambling to be enabled.
> > > > > > + *
> > > > > > + * Returns:
> > > > > > + * A boolean stating whether it's required or not.
> > > > > > + */
> > > > > > +static inline bool
> > > > > > +drm_mode_hdmi_requires_scrambling(const struct drm_display_mode *mode)
> > > > > > +{
> > > > > > +	return mode->clock > DRM_HDMI_14_MAX_TMDS_CLK_KHZ;
> > > > > > +}
> > > > > 
> > > > > That's only correct for 8bpc. The actual limit is on the TMDS clock (or
> > > > > rather TMDS character rate as HDMI 2.0 calls it due to the 1/1 vs. 1/4
> > > > > magic for the actually transmitted TMDS clock).
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah we might need to add the bus format for the cable here too, to make
> > > > this complete.
> > > 
> > > I don't think we have a usable thing for that on the drm level, so
> > > would need to invent something. Oh, and the mode->clock vs. 
> > > mode->crtc_clock funny business also limits the usability of this
> > > approach. So probably just easiest to pass in the the driver calculated
> > > TMDS clock instead.
> > 
> > If we look at all (I think?) the existing users of scrambling in KMS as
> > of 5.15, only i915 seems to use crtc_clock (which, in retrospect, seems
> > to be the right thing to do), and only i915 and dw-hdmi use an output
> > format, i915 rolling its own, and dw-hdmi using the mbus formats.
> > 
> > I think using the mbus format here makes the most sense: i915 already is
> > rolling a whole bunch of other code, and we use the mbus defines for the
> > bridge format enumeration as well which is probably going to have some
> > interaction.
> > 
> > I'm not quite sure what to do next though. The whole point of that
> > series is to streamline as much as possible the scrambling and TMDS
> > ratio setup to avoid the duplication we already have in the drivers that
> > support it, every one using the mostly-the-same-but-slightly-different
> > logic to configure it.
> > 
> > The mode is fortunately stored in generic structures so it's easy to
> > make that decision. Having to take into account the output format
> > however makes it mandatory to move the bus format in the
> > drm_connector_state(?) structure too.
> 
> I think involving state objects and the like is just going to make
> it harder to share code between all drivers, if that is the goal.
> Just a few tiny helpers I think is what would allow the broadest 
> reuse. I guess you could build additional midlayer on top of those
> for some drivers if you wish.
> 
> As for the bus_format stuff, that looks at the same time overkill,
> and insufficiently documented. I guess its main purpose is to exactly
> defines how some digtal bus works, which makes sense when you're
> chaining a bunch of random chips together. But looks overly complicated
> to me for defining what to output from a HDMI encoder. Looking at the
> defines I wouldn't even know what to use for HDMI actually. All we
> really want is RGB 4:4:4 vs. YCbCr 4:4:4 vs. YCbCr 4:2:2 vs. YCbCr 4:2:0.
> Beyond that level of detail we don't care how each bit gets transferred
> etc. Hence enum intel_output_format in i915.

I was thinking about this some more, can we leverage struct
hdmi_colorspace for this? Chances are it's already used by any driver
that supports YCbCr output to setup the infoframes.

Maxime

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2021-11-17 10:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20211102145944.259181-1-maxime@cerno.tech>
2021-11-02 14:59 ` [PATCH 01/13] drm/connector: Add define for HDMI 1.4 Maximum Pixel Rate Maxime Ripard
2021-11-02 17:50   ` Alex Deucher
2021-11-03  9:08   ` Neil Armstrong
2021-11-03 11:02   ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-11-03 18:05     ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-11-04  8:48       ` Maxime Ripard
2021-11-04 15:41         ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-11-08 14:59           ` Maxime Ripard
2021-11-02 14:59 ` [PATCH 02/13] drm/connector: Add helper to check if a mode requires scrambling Maxime Ripard
2021-11-04 15:37   ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-11-05 18:02     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-11-05 18:14       ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-11-08 15:58         ` Maxime Ripard
2021-11-08 16:03           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-11-08 17:55           ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-11-15 12:15             ` Maxime Ripard
2021-11-17 10:01             ` Maxime Ripard [this message]

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