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From: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
To: Alex Courbot <acourbot-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Anton Vorontsov
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	Alexandre Courbot
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv9 1/3] Runtime Interpreted Power Sequences
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 10:13:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50AC8D3B.6040300@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4316169.5QXVzv7peZ@percival>

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On 2012-11-21 03:56, Alex Courbot wrote:
> Hi Tomi,
> 
> On Tuesday 20 November 2012 22:48:18 Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
>> I guess there's a reason, but the above looks a bit inconsistent. For
>> gpio you define the gpio resource inside the step. For power and pwm the
>> resource is defined before the steps. Why wouldn't "pwm = <&pwm 2
>> 5000000>;" work in step2?
> 
> That's mostly a framework issue. Most frameworks do not export a function that 
> allow to dereference a phandle - they expect resources to be declared right 
> under the device node and accessed by name through foo_get(device, name). So 
> using phandles in power sequences would require to export these additional 

Right, I expected something like that.

> functions and also opens the door to some inconsistencies - for instance, your 
> PWM phandle could be referenced a second time in the sequence with a different 
> period - how do you know that these are actually referring the same PWM 
> device?

This I didn't understand. Doesn't "<&pwm 2 xyz>" point to a single
device, no matter where and how many times it's used?

>>> +When a power sequence is run, its steps is executed one after the other
>>> until +one step fails or the end of the sequence is reached.
>>
>> The document doesn't give any hint of what the driver should do if
>> running the power sequence fails. Run the "opposite" power sequence?
>> Will that work for all resources? I'm mainly thinking of a case where
>> each enable of the resource should be matched by a disable, i.e. you
>> can't call disable if no enable was called.
> 
> We discussed that issue already (around v5 I think) and the conclusion was 
> that it should be up to the driver. When we simply enable/disable resources it 
> is easy to revert, but in the future non-boolean properties will likely be 
> introduced, and these cannot easily be reverted. Moreover some drivers might 
> have more complex recovery needs. This deserves more discussion I think, as 
> I'd like to have some "generic" recovery mechanism that covers most of the 
> cases.

Ok. I'll need to dig up the conversation. Did you consider any examples
of how some driver could handle the error cases?

What I'm worried about is that, as far as I understand, the power
sequence is kinda like black box to the driver. The driver just does
"power-up", without knowing what really goes on in there.

And if it doesn't know what goes on in there, nor what's in "power-down"
sequence, how can it do anything when an error happens? The only option
I see is that the driver doesn't do anything, which will leave some
resources enabled, or it can run the power-down sequence, which may or
may not work.

 Tomi



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  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-21  8:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-17 10:55 [PATCHv9 0/3] Runtime Interpreted Power Sequences Alexandre Courbot
     [not found] ` <1353149747-31871-1-git-send-email-acourbot-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-17 10:55   ` [PATCHv9 1/3] " Alexandre Courbot
2012-11-17 11:38     ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-11-19  2:29       ` Alex Courbot
2012-11-19  2:32         ` Anton Vorontsov
     [not found]     ` <1353149747-31871-2-git-send-email-acourbot-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-20 14:48       ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]         ` <50AB9832.90709-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-21  1:56           ` Alex Courbot
2012-11-21  8:13             ` Tomi Valkeinen [this message]
     [not found]               ` <50AC8D3B.6040300-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-21  8:32                 ` Alex Courbot
2012-11-21  8:48                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2012-11-21 10:00                     ` Alex Courbot
2012-11-22 13:01                       ` Grant Likely
2012-11-20 21:54     ` Grant Likely
2012-11-21  1:31       ` Mark Brown
2012-11-21 16:44         ` Grant Likely
     [not found]         ` <20121121013133.GE4673-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-22  8:57           ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-22  9:55             ` Alexandre Courbot
2012-11-23  1:44             ` Mark Brown
2012-11-21  4:23       ` Alex Courbot
2012-11-21 11:06         ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]           ` <50ACB59B.4090404-X3B1VOXEql0@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-21 11:40             ` Thierry Reding
2012-11-21 12:04               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2012-11-21 13:00                 ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                   ` <20121121130039.GA12191-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-21 13:32                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                       ` <50ACD7DC.5060405-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-21 15:02                         ` Alexandre Courbot
2012-11-21 15:12                           ` Thierry Reding
2012-11-22  2:01                             ` Alexandre Courbot
     [not found]                               ` <CAAVeFuK_V6nb874bygioi35mFNxaWuveKOedLT=YYsP4JfVqgA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-22  2:06                                 ` Mark Brown
2012-11-22  3:09                                   ` Alexandre Courbot
     [not found]                             ` <20121121151209.GA4048-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-22 13:39                               ` Grant Likely
2012-11-27 15:19                   ` Laurent Pinchart
     [not found]                 ` <50ACC341.3090204-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-27 15:08                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-11-27 15:19                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2012-11-27 15:37                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-11-27 16:46                         ` Mark Brown
     [not found]               ` <20121121114018.GA31576-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-27 14:47                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-11-22 13:39         ` Grant Likely
2012-11-22 21:40           ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20121122214021.GA14771-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-26 11:49               ` Alex Courbot
2012-11-26 15:34             ` Grant Likely
2012-11-17 10:55   ` [PATCHv9 2/3] pwm_backlight: use power sequences Alexandre Courbot
2012-11-17 10:55 ` [PATCHv9 3/3] Take maintainership of " Alexandre Courbot
2012-11-20 21:58 ` [PATCHv9 0/3] Runtime Interpreted Power Sequences Grant Likely

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