NVIDIA Tegra DDX

NVIDIA Tegra DDX

[Thierry Reding]

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Hi,

I've upload a rebranded and cleaned up version of xf86-video-tegra to a
repository on gitorious[0]. Don't get too excited, since this is really
just a fork of the modesetting driver with some unnecessary pieces such
as PCI support removed.

Aaron had some reservations about calling this xf86-video-tegra because
it will clash with the binary tegra_drv.so provided by NVIDIA. However I
couldn't come up with anything more creative. Distributions will have to
deal with this in some way or another anyway and there really isn't a
way of running both drivers on top of the same kernel currently, so I
decided not to care.

Thierry

[0]: https://gitorious.org/thierryreding/xf86-video-tegra

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Re: NVIDIA Tegra DDX

[Michal Suchanek]

On 10 December 2012 11:56, Thierry Reding
<thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've upload a rebranded and cleaned up version of xf86-video-tegra to a
> repository on gitorious[0]. Don't get too excited, since this is really
> just a fork of the modesetting driver with some unnecessary pieces such
> as PCI support removed.
>
> Aaron had some reservations about calling this xf86-video-tegra because
> it will clash with the binary tegra_drv.so provided by NVIDIA. However I
> couldn't come up with anything more creative. Distributions will have to
> deal with this in some way or another anyway and there really isn't a
> way of running both drivers on top of the same kernel currently, so I
> decided not to care.
>

You cannot run both drivers on top of the same kernel but the X server
could possibly load and probe both drivers in turn and keep the one
that can work with the current kernel.

Perhaps it could be named xf86-video-tegra-kms or something.

Thanks

Michal

Re: NVIDIA Tegra DDX

[Marc Dietrich]

Am Montag, 10. Dezember 2012, 12:01:26 schrieb Michal Suchanek:
> On 10 December 2012 11:56, Thierry Reding
> 
> <thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I've upload a rebranded and cleaned up version of xf86-video-tegra to a
> > repository on gitorious[0]. Don't get too excited, since this is really
> > just a fork of the modesetting driver with some unnecessary pieces such
> > as PCI support removed.
> > 
> > Aaron had some reservations about calling this xf86-video-tegra because
> > it will clash with the binary tegra_drv.so provided by NVIDIA. However I
> > couldn't come up with anything more creative. Distributions will have to
> > deal with this in some way or another anyway and there really isn't a
> > way of running both drivers on top of the same kernel currently, so I
> > decided not to care.
> 
> You cannot run both drivers on top of the same kernel but the X server
> could possibly load and probe both drivers in turn and keep the one
> that can work with the current kernel.

exactly, don't shift the burden to maintain two name identical drivers for the 
same hw to the distributions.

> Perhaps it could be named xf86-video-tegra-kms or something.

or opentegra (to make clear that this driver is not the closed source one). I 
know this is a bit fanciless but it fits better IMHO.

Marc

Re: NVIDIA Tegra DDX

[Thierry Reding]

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On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:40:21PM +0100, Marc Dietrich wrote:
> Am Montag, 10. Dezember 2012, 12:01:26 schrieb Michal Suchanek:
> > On 10 December 2012 11:56, Thierry Reding
> > 
> > <thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I've upload a rebranded and cleaned up version of xf86-video-tegra to a
> > > repository on gitorious[0]. Don't get too excited, since this is really
> > > just a fork of the modesetting driver with some unnecessary pieces such
> > > as PCI support removed.
> > > 
> > > Aaron had some reservations about calling this xf86-video-tegra because
> > > it will clash with the binary tegra_drv.so provided by NVIDIA. However I
> > > couldn't come up with anything more creative. Distributions will have to
> > > deal with this in some way or another anyway and there really isn't a
> > > way of running both drivers on top of the same kernel currently, so I
> > > decided not to care.
> > 
> > You cannot run both drivers on top of the same kernel but the X server
> > could possibly load and probe both drivers in turn and keep the one
> > that can work with the current kernel.
> 
> exactly, don't shift the burden to maintain two name identical drivers for the 
> same hw to the distributions.

Okay, those are good arguments.

> > Perhaps it could be named xf86-video-tegra-kms or something.
> 
> or opentegra (to make clear that this driver is not the closed source one). I 
> know this is a bit fanciless but it fits better IMHO.

I just remembered that back when I started working on Tegra DRM I wrote
some small utilities to help with the reverse engineering and some test
programs. At the time, some other projects were appearing and the trend
seemed to be to reverse the syllables of the original to obtain a new
name. So I went ahead and collectively named the utilities "grate". I'll
throw xf86-video-grate in as another potential candidate.

Thierry

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Re: NVIDIA Tegra DDX

[Stephen Warren]

On 12/10/2012 03:56 AM, Thierry Reding wrote:
...
> Aaron had some reservations about calling this xf86-video-tegra
> because it will clash with the binary tegra_drv.so provided by
> NVIDIA. However I couldn't come up with anything more creative.
> Distributions will have to deal with this in some way or another
> anyway and there really isn't a way of running both drivers on top
> of the same kernel currently, so I decided not to care.

Why not xf86-video-tegradrm, since tegradrm is the kernel driver it
talks to. It'd also help make it more obvious which user-space driver
to pick based on the kernel driver.

Re: NVIDIA Tegra DDX

[Lucas Stach]

Am Montag, den 10.12.2012, 13:34 +0100 schrieb Thierry Reding:
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:40:21PM +0100, Marc Dietrich wrote:
> > Am Montag, 10. Dezember 2012, 12:01:26 schrieb Michal Suchanek:
> 
> > > Perhaps it could be named xf86-video-tegra-kms or something.
> > 
> > or opentegra (to make clear that this driver is not the closed source one). I 
> > know this is a bit fanciless but it fits better IMHO.
> 
I actually like the name opentegra as it clearly states what's inside.

> I just remembered that back when I started working on Tegra DRM I wrote
> some small utilities to help with the reverse engineering and some test
> programs. At the time, some other projects were appearing and the trend
> seemed to be to reverse the syllables of the original to obtain a new
> name. So I went ahead and collectively named the utilities "grate". I'll
> throw xf86-video-grate in as another potential candidate.
> 
Now that we've heard some candidates for the naming, can we please come
to any conclusion?

I would like to start extending the DDX in the next days and it would be
really nice to have the naming thing out of the way for this.

Regards,
Lucas