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From: Mario Kleiner <mario.kleiner.de-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Jon Mayo <jmayo-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Lucas Stach <dev-8ppwABl0HbeELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>,
	Mario Kleiner
	<mario.kleiner-TdbV1Z3I5XE0NhjG498hmQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] drm/tegra: Implement VBLANK support
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 21:08:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50FEF1CE.3020607@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADWT_cOpSBR+DiKwQ4PvYk8-o88Wf5=Tz+ho_g4MdUVKMtc-dw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On 22.01.13 20:27, Jon Mayo wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Mario Kleiner
> <mario.kleiner.de-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> On 22.01.13 19:39, Lucas Stach wrote:
>>>
>>> Am Dienstag, den 22.01.2013, 18:37 +0100 schrieb Mario Kleiner:
>>>>
>>>> On 14.01.13 17:05, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Implement support for the VBLANK IOCTL. Note that Tegra is somewhat
>>>>> special in this case because it doesn't use the generic IRQ support
>>>>> provided by the DRM core (DRIVER_HAVE_IRQ) but rather registers one
>>>>> interrupt handler for each display controller.
>>>>>
>>>>> While at it, clean up the way that interrupts are enabled to ensure
>>>>> that the VBLANK interrupt only gets enabled when required.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ... snip ...
>>>>
>>>>>     struct drm_driver tegra_drm_driver = {
>>>>>          .driver_features = DRIVER_BUS_PLATFORM | DRIVER_MODESET |
>>>>> DRIVER_GEM,
>>>>>          .load = tegra_drm_load,
>>>>> @@ -96,6 +136,10 @@ struct drm_driver tegra_drm_driver = {
>>>>>          .open = tegra_drm_open,
>>>>>          .lastclose = tegra_drm_lastclose,
>>>>>
>>>>> +       .get_vblank_counter = drm_vblank_count,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -> .get_vblank_counter = drm_vblank_count is a no-op.
>>>>
>>>> .get_vblank_counter() is supposed to return some real hardware vblank
>>>> counter value to reinitialize the software vblank counter at vbl irq
>>>> enable time. That software counter gets queried via drm_vblank_count().
>>>> If you hook this up to drm_vblank_count() it essentially returns a
>>>> constant, frozen vblank count, it has the same effect as returning zero
>>>> or any other constant value -- You lose all vblank counter increments
>>>> during vblank irq off time. The same problem is present in nouveau-kms.
>>>>
>>>> I think it would be better to either implement a real hw counter query,
>>>> or some function with a /* TODO: Implement me properly */ comment which
>>>> returns zero, so it is clear something is missing here.
>>>>
>>> I've looked this up in the TRM a while ago as I know we have the same
>>> problem in nouveau, but it seems there is no HW vblank counter on Tegra.
>>>
>>> Mario, you know a fair bit more about this than I do, what is the
>>> preferred way of handling this if we are sure we are not able to
>>> implement anything meaningful here? Just return 0?
>>>
>>
>> I think 0 would be better, just to make it clear to readers of the source
>> code that this function is basically unimplemented. For correctness it
>> doesn't matter what you return, drm_vblank_count() is ok as well.
>>
>> If we wanted, we could probably implement a good enough emulated hw-vblank
>> counter, at least on nouveau? If there is some on-chip clock register that
>> is driven by the same hardware oscillator as the crtc's so it doesn't drift,
>> we could store the clock time in the vblank_disable() hook, and some
>> measured duration of a video refresh, wrt. that clock. Then in
>> .get_vblank_counter() calculate how many vblanks have elapsed from
>> (current_clock_time - vblank_off_clock_time) / frame_duration and increment
>> our own private software vblank counter. Something along that line...
>>
>> -mario
>>
>
> Looking through the T30 manuals, I see all the
> CLK_RST_CONTROLLER_CLK_SOURCE_xxx entries that support PLLD as a
> parent are display related. You won't find any timers or counters that
> use the same exact clock. Being out-of-sync is a real possibility, and
> something adaptive would have to be implement to hide the desync
> between a fake and a real vblank once you make the transition.
>
> That said, I think being inaccurate here doesn't have a very high
> cost. Please give me some examples if you disagree though, I'd be
> interested in some good use cases to throw into my test plan.
>
> - Jon
>

Agreed. Fwiw at least i can't think of applications which would need 
stability over more than maybe a couple of seconds or a minute.

-mario

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-22 20:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-14 16:05 [PATCH v2 0/5] drm/tegra: Miscellaneous enhancements Thierry Reding
     [not found] ` <1358179560-26799-1-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-14 16:05   ` [PATCH v2 1/5] drm: Allow vblank support without DRIVER_HAVE_IRQ Thierry Reding
2013-01-14 16:05   ` [PATCH v2 2/5] drm/tegra: Add plane support Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1358179560-26799-3-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-14 17:03       ` Lucas Stach
2013-01-15 11:19         ` Thierry Reding
2013-01-15  9:53       ` Mark Zhang
     [not found]         ` <50F526FF.1010101-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-15 10:50           ` Lucas Stach
2013-01-18  3:59             ` Mark Zhang
2013-01-15 11:35           ` Ville Syrjälä
     [not found]             ` <20130115113532.GC3503-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-15 11:50               ` Thierry Reding
2013-01-14 16:05   ` [PATCH v2 3/5] drm/tegra: Implement .mode_set_base() Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1358179560-26799-4-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-14 17:14       ` Lucas Stach
2013-01-17  6:10       ` Mark Zhang
2013-01-14 16:05   ` [PATCH v2 4/5] drm/tegra: Implement VBLANK support Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1358179560-26799-5-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-22 17:37       ` Mario Kleiner
     [not found]         ` <50FECE63.7090009-TdbV1Z3I5XE0NhjG498hmQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-22 18:39           ` Lucas Stach
2013-01-22 18:49             ` Jon Mayo
     [not found]               ` <CADWT_cOjVg9-hB+jWuEUr+Ou-YECBN73WQXNy17qXf3TO1ZjpQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-22 19:59                 ` Mario Kleiner
     [not found]                   ` <50FEEF92.9060009-TdbV1Z3I5XE0NhjG498hmQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-23  8:02                     ` Terje Bergström
     [not found]                       ` <50FF990C.3040902-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-11  9:08                         ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                           ` <20130211090840.GB3423-RM9K5IK7kjIQXX3q8xo1gnVAuStQJXxyR5q1nwbD4aMs9pC9oP6+/A@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-11 15:43                             ` Terje Bergström
2013-01-22 19:20             ` Mario Kleiner
     [not found]               ` <50FEE681.7020208-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-22 19:27                 ` Jon Mayo
     [not found]                   ` <CADWT_cOpSBR+DiKwQ4PvYk8-o88Wf5=Tz+ho_g4MdUVKMtc-dw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-22 20:08                     ` Mario Kleiner [this message]
2013-02-11  9:13           ` Thierry Reding
2013-02-15 22:38             ` Mario Kleiner
2013-01-14 16:06   ` [PATCH v2 5/5] drm/tegra: Implement page-flipping support Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1358179560-26799-6-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-16 11:10       ` Mark Zhang
     [not found]         ` <50F68AB2.4030408-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-16 11:53           ` Lucas Stach
2013-01-17  4:49             ` Mark Zhang
2013-01-17  6:33       ` Mark Zhang
2013-01-22  8:31       ` Terje Bergström
     [not found]         ` <50FE4E4F.6080506-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-22  8:57           ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20130122085756.GA6315-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-22  9:15               ` Lucas Stach
2013-01-22  9:31                 ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                   ` <20130122093150.GA22264-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-22  9:44                     ` Terje Bergström
     [not found]                       ` <50FE5F61.4080103-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-22  9:48                         ` Lucas Stach
2013-01-22 10:39                           ` Terje Bergström
2013-01-22  9:35                 ` Terje Bergström
2013-01-22 17:27           ` Mario Kleiner
     [not found]             ` <50FECBFC.8080307-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-11  9:00               ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                 ` <20130211090001.GA3423-RM9K5IK7kjIQXX3q8xo1gnVAuStQJXxyR5q1nwbD4aMs9pC9oP6+/A@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-15 22:34                   ` Mario Kleiner

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