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From: Rob Herring <robherring2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Marc Dietrich <marvin24-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>,
	Russell King <linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Olof Johansson <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	ARM kernel mailing list
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Subject: Re: Multi-platform, and secure-only ARM errata workarounds
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:00:08 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <512E1168.4080003@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <22709540.96uJddbx1U-D3pzGp0ZKuDWZbiwp4sFPyrtisivX6KghOMvlBiLbJSELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>

On 02/27/2013 03:03 AM, Marc Dietrich wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 26. Februar 2013, 09:39:15 schrieb Stephen Warren:
>> On 02/26/2013 02:36 AM, Marc Dietrich wrote:
>>> Am Montag, 25. Februar 2013, 16:47:38 schrieb Stephen Warren:
>>>> ...
>>>> Now, I can easily add those 3 errata workarounds to U-Boot, but that
>>>> will require people to reflash their bootloader. This is probably
>>>> acceptable for development/reference boards (although I'm sure people
>>>> will find it annoying) but for re-purposed production boards (such as
>>>> the Toshiba AC100 or various tablets) it will be impossible to update
>>>> the factory bootloader. Switching to upstream U-Boot would currently
>>>> lose some functionality, and significantly affect people's boot flow, so
>>>> is likely unacceptable.
>>>
>>> personally, I have no problem to require a certain u-boot version for a
>>> given kernel. From a distro point of view, you will likely update the
>>> bootloader/kernel on a distro update anyway.
>>
>> So a distro will certainly update the kernel.
>>
>> But updating a bootloader would be very unusual, I believe.
> 
> mmh? Every time I update to a new distro release, the bootloader gets also 
> updated - even on arm, e.g. ftp://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/u/u-boot-linaro lists four version of uboot - one for each supported distro 
> release. I know for closed embedded device this is different, but that's not 
> our target.

There is a package of u-boot bootloaders, but they are not installed by
the OS. On ubuntu, installing a kernel only writes the boot.scr script.
There is an assumption that u-boot will go and read this. So we already
have some requirements on u-boot which would require at least a u-boot
environment update. I guess updating the environment is easier than
u-boot itself, but that probably depends on the platform.

Rob

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-02-27 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-25 23:47 Multi-platform, and secure-only ARM errata workarounds Stephen Warren
2013-02-26  9:36 ` Marc Dietrich
     [not found]   ` <4928288.ie8EUukfVD-D3pzGp0ZKuDWZbiwp4sFPyrtisivX6KghOMvlBiLbJSELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 16:39     ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]       ` <512CE533.6020005-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 22:31         ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-27  9:03         ` Marc Dietrich
     [not found]           ` <22709540.96uJddbx1U-D3pzGp0ZKuDWZbiwp4sFPyrtisivX6KghOMvlBiLbJSELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-27 14:00             ` Rob Herring [this message]
2013-02-27 17:42             ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-28 13:58               ` Marc Dietrich
     [not found] ` <512BF81A.3080700-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 10:23   ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]     ` <201302261023.26939.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 10:31       ` Catalin Marinas
     [not found]         ` <20130226103114.GA16875-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 10:35           ` Catalin Marinas
     [not found]             ` <20130226103503.GB16875-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 10:48               ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                 ` <201302261048.06644.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 11:11                   ` Catalin Marinas
2013-02-26 11:35       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]         ` <20130226113538.GS17833-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 14:07           ` Rob Herring
2013-02-26 18:01           ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]             ` <512CF87A.4090404-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 18:11               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                 ` <20130226181114.GU17833-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 18:30                   ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                     ` <512CFF30.9080300-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 18:49                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                         ` <20130226184942.GV17833-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-27  6:07                           ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-03-01 17:37                   ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                     ` <5130E757.6090500-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-01 18:05                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-03-04  6:34                       ` Peter De Schrijver
     [not found]                         ` <20130304063436.GB27241-Rysk9IDjsxmJz7etNGeUX8VPkgjIgRvpAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-04  9:16                           ` Peter De Schrijver
     [not found]                             ` <20130304091600.GC27241-Rysk9IDjsxmJz7etNGeUX8VPkgjIgRvpAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-04 17:08                               ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                 ` <5134D50B.8060001-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-05  7:40                                   ` Peter De Schrijver
     [not found]                                     ` <20130305074047.GH27241-Rysk9IDjsxmJz7etNGeUX8VPkgjIgRvpAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-05 17:00                                       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                         ` <513624AA.4090207-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-06  8:14                                           ` Peter De Schrijver
     [not found]                                             ` <20130306081401.GN27241-Rysk9IDjsxmJz7etNGeUX8VPkgjIgRvpAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-06 16:18                                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-03-10 17:25                                           ` Santosh Shilimkar
     [not found]                                             ` <513CC21E.7080901-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-10 18:47                                               ` Olof Johansson
     [not found]                                                 ` <CAOesGMgYL19+u-bLp080iasct5xtC=qfNCoz=SY7bbVgF=7JQg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-11 16:59                                                   ` Stephen Warren
2013-03-11 18:54                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe

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