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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: "Stéphane Marchesin" <stephane.marchesin@gmail.com>,
	"Thierry Reding" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Mike Turquette <mturquette@linaro.org>,
	Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu.vizoso@collabora.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Kyungmin Park <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	myungjoo.ham@samsung.com,
	"linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/4] memory: tegra124-emc: Add EMC driver
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 16:33:39 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53A213C3.2020207@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACP_E+Jr5QyYm92Mc2=WVhKMbk=9Ty1fvJuH+fqOmDnYmdqFRg@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/18/2014 04:19 PM, Stéphane Marchesin wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Thierry Reding
> <thierry.reding@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 07:23:47PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>> On 06/17/2014 06:15 PM, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>> On 06/17/2014 06:16 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>>>> On 06/16/2014 10:02 PM, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>>>> On 06/16/2014 07:35 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>>>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_TEGRA124_EMC
>>>>>>> +int tegra124_emc_reserve_bandwidth(unsigned int consumer, unsigned
>>>>>>> long rate);
>>>>>>> +void tegra124_emc_set_floor(unsigned long freq);
>>>>>>> +void tegra124_emc_set_ceiling(unsigned long freq);
>>>>>>> +#else
>>>>>>> +int tegra124_emc_reserve_bandwidth(unsigned int consumer, unsigned
>>>>>>> long rate)
>>>>>>> +{ return -ENODEV; }
>>>>>>> +void tegra124_emc_set_floor(unsigned long freq)
>>>>>>> +{ return; }
>>>>>>> +void tegra124_emc_set_ceiling(unsigned long freq)
>>>>>>> +{ return; }
>>>>>>> +#endif
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll repeat what I said off-list so that we can have the whole
>>>>>> conversation on the list:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That looks like a custom Tegra-specific API. I think it'd be much better
>>>>>> to integrate this into the common clock framework as a standard clock
>>>>>> constraints API. There are other use-cases for clock constraints besides
>>>>>> EMC scaling (e.g. some in audio on Tegra, and I'm sure many on other
>>>>>> SoCs too).
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I wrote a bit in the cover letter about our requirements and how
>>>>> they map to the CCF. Could you please comment on that?
>>>>
>>>> My comments remain the same. I believe this is something that belongs in
>>>> the clock driver, or at the least, some API that takes a struct clock as
>>>> its parameter, so that drivers can use the existing DT clock lookup
>>>> mechanism.
>>>
>>> Ok, let me put this strawman here to see if I have gotten close to what you
>>> have in mind:
>>>
>>> * add per-client accounting (Rabin's patches referenced before)
>>>
>>> * add clk_set_floor, to be used by cpufreq, load stats, etc.
>>>
>>> * add clk_set_ceiling, to be used by battery drivers, thermal, etc.
>>>
>>> * an EMC driver would collect bandwidth and latency requests from consumers
>>> and call clk_set_floor on the EMC clock.
>>>
>>> * the EMC driver would also register for rate change notifications in the
>>> EMC clock and would update the latency allowance registers at that point.
>>
>> Latency allowance registers are part of the MC rather than the EMC. So I
>> think we have two options: a) have a unified driver for MC and EMC or b)
>> provide two parts of the API in two drivers.
>>
>> Or perhaps c), create a generic framework that both MC and EMC can
>> register with (bandwidth for EMC, latency for MC).
> 
> Is there any motivation for keeping MC and EMC separate? In my mind,
> the solution was always to handle those together.

Well, they are documented as being separate HW modules in the TRM.

I know there's an interlock in HW so that when the EMC clock is changed,
the EMC registers can flip atomically to a new configuration.

I'm not aware of any similar HW interlock between MC and EMC registers.
That would imply that very tight co-ordination shouldn't be required.

Do the MC latency allowance registers /really/ need to be *very tightly*
managed whenever the EMC clock is changed, or is it just a matter of it
being a good idea to update EMC clock and MC latency allowance registers
at roughly the same time? Even if there's some co-ordination required,
maybe it can be handled rather like cpufreq notifications; use clock
pre-rate change notifications to set MC up in a way that'll work at both
old/new EMC clocks, and then clock post-rate notifications to the final
MC configuration?
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-18 22:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-16 13:35 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Tegra124: EMC scaling Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-16 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] memory: tegra124-emc: Add EMC driver Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-16 14:03   ` Mikko Perttunen
     [not found]   ` <1402925713-25426-2-git-send-email-tomeu.vizoso-ZGY8ohtN/8qB+jHODAdFcQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-16 20:02     ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]       ` <539F4D44.3070309-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-17 12:16         ` Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-17 16:15           ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-17 16:59             ` Mikko Perttunen
     [not found]             ` <53A069B6.6070902-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-18 17:23               ` Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-18 17:46                 ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-18 22:03                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-18 22:09                     ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-18 23:14                       ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-18 23:24                         ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-18 22:00                 ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-18 22:19                   ` Stéphane Marchesin
2014-06-18 22:33                     ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2014-06-18 23:20                       ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-17 22:35           ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-18  8:57             ` Peter De Schrijver
2014-06-16 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] ARM: tegra: Add Tegra124 EMC support Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-17 22:38   ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-16 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] drm/tegra: Request memory bandwidth for the display controller Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-16 20:06   ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-17 22:43     ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-16 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] cpufreq: tegra: Register a minimum EMC frequency based on the CPU clock Tomeu Vizoso
2014-06-16 14:08   ` Mikko Perttunen

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