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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <k.kozlowski@samsung.com>
To: Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	Rhyland Klein <rklein@nvidia.com>,
	Thierry Reding <treding@nvidia.com>,
	Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov <dbaryshkov@gmail.com>
Cc: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: defconfig: Enable cros-ec and battery driver
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 14:55:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <574843D4.4080303@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57483AC8.6010007@nvidia.com>

On 05/27/2016 02:17 PM, Jon Hunter wrote:
> 
> On 27/05/16 12:46, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On 05/27/2016 12:28 PM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>> Hi Krzysztof,
>>>
>>> On 27/05/16 09:37, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Indeed I was struggling with similar issue in bq27x00_battery. The issue
>>>> was introduced by... me :(  when moving the ownership of power supply
>>>> structure from driver to the core. However IMHO my change exposed the
>>>> fundamental problem with power supply.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway a fix for this issue was:
>>>> 7f1a57fdd6cb6e7b (power_supply: Fix possible NULL pointer dereference on
>>>> early uevent)
>>>> AFAIU, this fix no longer fixes all the issues, right?
>>>>
>>>> As for the fundamental problem, the power supply core should not call
>>>> back the driver (get_property()) until the probe ends. Even if the
>>>> di->bat was initialized, some other fields of driver could not be set
>>>> yet. In general, the probe did not end so we should avoid calling driver
>>>> internal functions.
>>>
>>> For my understanding, can you elaborate why the power-supply core should
>>> not call back to the drivers ->get_property() before the probe ends? I
>>> assume that registering the power-supply should be the last thing done
>>> in the probe and so the power-supply should be configured at that point.
>>
>> It is not only about power supply but other resources allocated by the
>> driver. If the power_supply_register() is a last call, then no problem.
>> But if not, then these resources won't be available.
>>
>> Actually I exaggerated a little bit as a fundamental problem as this is
>> quite common pattern. When driver provides something (like power supply)
>> then after registration it should be ready for calls coming from the
>> core or user space. It does not have to be power supply. It might be
>> exposing sysfs entries or file operations (exposed before calling
>> power_supply_register()).
> 
> Right, exactly when you register with the power-supply core the device
> better be ready so that handle any incoming calls.

Yes, the unusual thing here is that the device is called back directly
from the power_supply_register() call.

> 
>>> The problems with the bq27xxx seem to stem from the periodic update of
>>> the bq27xxx status and so it is not clear to me that this is a generic
>>> problem for all power-supply devices.
>>
>> Initially, the generic problem was that the core would call back the
>> driver from power_supply_register() in a synchronous way through
>> power_supply_changed(). The commit 7f1a57fdd6c changed it to an
>> asynchronous call. Here it looks like the same problem - the
>> power_supply_register() calls thermal which calls
>> thermal_zone_device_update() and we are back at the driver... before
>> finishing power_supply_register() call.
> 
> So I am still not convinced this is a generic problem but a problem with
> the bq27xxx. In fact, I think that commit 7f1a57fdd6c could be avoided
> if we did something like ...
> 
> http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=146425896332433&w=2
> 
> AFAICT in most cases, in ->get_property() you should have no need to
> access a driver's equivalent of di->bat, because you have already been
> passed a pointer to this via the *psy argument.

I agree that get_property() shouldn't access di->bat. However if it is
not forbidden (at least by documentation) then someone might just do it
because he does not know about such requirement.

Best regards,
Krzysztof

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-27 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-03 15:45 [PATCH] arm64: defconfig: Enable cros-ec and battery driver Rhyland Klein
2016-05-19 17:20 ` Rhyland Klein
     [not found] ` <1462290318-9074-1-git-send-email-rklein-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-24 14:09   ` Jon Hunter
     [not found]     ` <5744609A.1000008-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-24 19:08       ` Rhyland Klein
     [not found]         ` <324dfe74-4fc0-d500-91ac-2a802562e92f-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-25 10:58           ` Jon Hunter
     [not found]             ` <5745853B.1040304-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-25 11:03               ` Jon Hunter
2016-05-25 15:46                 ` Thierry Reding
2016-05-25 15:55                   ` Rhyland Klein
     [not found]                     ` <9411ff33-e375-8286-8690-fe7fcac1c14b-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-25 16:10                       ` Jon Hunter
     [not found]                         ` <5745CE75.7010603-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-25 16:29                           ` Jon Hunter
2016-05-25 16:36                             ` Rhyland Klein
2016-05-25 17:26                               ` Jon Hunter
     [not found]                                 ` <5745E031.7010406-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-25 19:44                                   ` Rhyland Klein
     [not found]                                     ` <5c03a025-f31d-fa18-b973-0b026ede9c5c-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-26 10:35                                       ` Jon Hunter
2016-05-27  8:37                                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
     [not found]                                       ` <5748073F.1030704-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-27  9:19                                         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-05-27 10:28                                         ` Jon Hunter
     [not found]                                           ` <57482162.20306-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-27 11:46                                             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
     [not found]                                               ` <5748339E.9080504-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-27 12:17                                                 ` Jon Hunter
2016-05-27 12:55                                                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
     [not found]                                                     ` <574843D4.4080303-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-31 17:24                                                       ` Jon Hunter
     [not found]                             ` <5745D2DD.6080300-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-25 16:36                               ` Jon Hunter
     [not found]                   ` <20160525154618.GD13765-EkSeR96xj6Pcmrwk2tT4+A@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-25 15:57                     ` Jon Hunter
     [not found]                 ` <57458693.3050700-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-25 15:49                   ` Rhyland Klein

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